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re: The Official NBA Free Agency/Offseason Thread Update: MITCHELL TO CLE
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:17 am to longhorn22
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:17 am to longhorn22
Fanspo posted an interesting trade proposal that I find very interesting
Pacers get Gordon Hayward, Jaxson Hayes, Devonte Graham, and a 2023 1st (DEN)
Hornets get Myles Turner and Kira Lewis
Pelicans get Buddy Hield
They also had the Pels signing Boogie off that
Truly I love that for all parties
Pacers get Gordon Hayward, Jaxson Hayes, Devonte Graham, and a 2023 1st (DEN)
Hornets get Myles Turner and Kira Lewis
Pelicans get Buddy Hield
They also had the Pels signing Boogie off that
Truly I love that for all parties
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Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:19 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:This would be another example of why KD is the main person to blame.
There is a theory out there that KD doesn’t actually want to leave. It’s being reported that since the trade demand, no player can get in touch with him.
Which is atypical as many would be trying to recruit him.
The reason for the demand? To give Kyrie more leverage.
All speculation, of course.
Unless I'm misunderstanding, instead of doing everything you can to keep Kyrie because you want to win, you're going legit out of your way to help get rid of your 2nd best player? That's weak as frick.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:29 am to shel311
Windhorst is saying what some of us have been thinking:
The Nets thought there would be a bidding war for KD, and they were dead wrong
According to Brian Windhorst:
The Nets thought there would be a bidding war for KD, and they were dead wrong
According to Brian Windhorst:
quote:
When the Nets put Kevin Durant on the markets, the Nets thought there would be a tremendous bidding war. While there's a lot of interest, the bidding war is not hot. Teams have made their offers and don't feel the need to increase them.
After the Gobert trade, Brooklyn raised their price, but GMs have told them they thought it was a major overpay, and they are not willing to offer even a comparable haul for Kevin Durant.
There was belief that after the Golbert trade, that Mitchell would go next. The Jazz aren't planning to do anything and Mitchell is not going to force action now.
Teams are not trying to outbid each other for Kevin Durant. It makes no sense to sell your house than buy a car, even if that car is a Lamborghini.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:30 am
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:32 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
There was belief that after the Golbert trade, that Mitchell would go next. The Jazz aren't planning to do anything and Mitchell is not going to force action now.
The young coach they brought in is pretty solid.
Ainge is up to his old tricks...
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:36 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
While there's a lot of interest, the bidding war is not hot. Teams have made their offers and don't feel the need to increase them.
quote:Bold strategy!
After the Gobert trade, Brooklyn raised their price
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:39 am to shel311
I think every team is doing something similar to what the Pels are doing.
Offering salaries to match but no players of note, and a few picks.
Otherwise every team is saying "meh"
Offering salaries to match but no players of note, and a few picks.
Otherwise every team is saying "meh"
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:41 am to Fun Bunch
I get that he's 34 and hasn't played much the past 3 years, but I still find it interesting that perhaps the breaking point on these crazy trades since Griff got that party started is with KD.
You'd just think there's 1 team, there's always 1 team, willing to go all in and break the bank.
But I guess if the starting point is something like Ant/KAT/8 1sts, then it's not really the tipping point, it's just the Nets being dumb
You'd just think there's 1 team, there's always 1 team, willing to go all in and break the bank.
But I guess if the starting point is something like Ant/KAT/8 1sts, then it's not really the tipping point, it's just the Nets being dumb
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:43 am to shel311
You know what's kinda funny?
Over the past 3 seasons, KD has only played 7 more games than Zion in the regular season.
Over the past 3 seasons, KD has only played 7 more games than Zion in the regular season.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:48 am to Fun Bunch
LMFAOOO
frick KD and frick the media. You’ll never hear that stat on ESPN Fun Bunch
frick KD and frick the media. You’ll never hear that stat on ESPN Fun Bunch
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:00 am to shel311
quote:
then it's not really the tipping point, it's just the Nets being dumb
They could just not want to trade him
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:03 am to shel311
quote:
Unless I'm misunderstanding, instead of doing everything you can to keep Kyrie because you want to win, you're going legit out of your way to help get rid of your 2nd best player? That's weak as frick.
What you’re failing to see is that there is little to no market for Kyrie, therefore the nets best path, (speculatively)Durant’s and his agent’s line of thinking, might be for the nets to be forced into extending Kyrie.
1. Extend Kyrie and trade them as a packaged deal-as rumored that they still want to play together.
2. Durant and Kyrie both want to stay but only if Kyrie gets extended to the length remaining on Durant’s deal.
Brooklyn can wait for months on Durant. Durant isn’t likely going to sit out.
Kyrie has no market. Too high of a risk.
Durant has high interest but too high of an asking price.
Simmons value is at an all time low.
Brooklyn doesn’t want to rebuild.
So what move does Durant have?
As stated before, Kobe demanded a trade with years left.
Dr. Buss said no.
If the Nets have any balls, they tell him the same.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:09 am to Epic Cajun
KD supposedly when directly to the owner to ask for a trade, so I don't think Marks really ever wanted to trade KD.
It's also kind of hard to imagine them thinking there would be this huge bidding war "Take Booker", "No, take Tatum", "No, take Zion". Teams on the rise with players of that level want to add talent, not swap young good player for more experienced good player. I think Marks knew this would fail but he still had to go through the motions.
It's also kind of hard to imagine them thinking there would be this huge bidding war "Take Booker", "No, take Tatum", "No, take Zion". Teams on the rise with players of that level want to add talent, not swap young good player for more experienced good player. I think Marks knew this would fail but he still had to go through the motions.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:10 am to shel311
Yeah, the Raptors got Kawhi for DeRozan, Poeltl, and a protected first. That it. Really.
People pretend that Masai Ujiri broke the bank and took a big risk to get Kawhi.
No, David Griffin set a new standard with the Lakers trade, and that only happened because LeBron forced them to. In retrospect, LeBron is the one who really deserves most of the credit for these giant mismatched trades.
But then the Lakers won a title, and David Griffin again engineered a huge trade with MIL for Jrue Holiday, and then the Bucks won the title.
So, by then you've had three straight years where the NBA champion has made a huge trade to acquire a player who helps them win a title. It's now the standard operating procedure among teams in the hunt: "Who are we going to make the big trade for to help us win the title next year?"
Only, then, tons of teams bust out with those trades and cripple themselves for the future. This year, Golden State won with homegrown talent.
Now, some teams are starting to wonder if the giant trades are worth the risk. The tide is beginning to turn.
People pretend that Masai Ujiri broke the bank and took a big risk to get Kawhi.
No, David Griffin set a new standard with the Lakers trade, and that only happened because LeBron forced them to. In retrospect, LeBron is the one who really deserves most of the credit for these giant mismatched trades.
But then the Lakers won a title, and David Griffin again engineered a huge trade with MIL for Jrue Holiday, and then the Bucks won the title.
So, by then you've had three straight years where the NBA champion has made a huge trade to acquire a player who helps them win a title. It's now the standard operating procedure among teams in the hunt: "Who are we going to make the big trade for to help us win the title next year?"
Only, then, tons of teams bust out with those trades and cripple themselves for the future. This year, Golden State won with homegrown talent.
Now, some teams are starting to wonder if the giant trades are worth the risk. The tide is beginning to turn.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:13 am to taakayaaka
quote:
Why would we do that
The Pels need to do a 2 players for 1 player trade to open up a roster spot for EJ Liddell. They also could use more shooting and a backup rim protector. This gets you one of those. Imagine a lineup of
CJ
Buddy
BI
Trey
Zion
What would a team do against that? 3 guys that will kill you if you give them open 3s and BI and Zion running P&R. You either leave multiple deadly shooters open or you let BI and Zion beat single coverage for easy baskets, probably And 1's.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 11:14 am
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:18 am to TigerinATL
Rather Herb start and Buddy be primary bench scorer. Need Zion to step up defense bigly.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:20 am to TigerinATL
Defense would be rouuuggghhhhh.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:23 am to BallHawk
quote:
Fanspo posted an interesting trade proposal that I find very interesting
Pacers get Gordon Hayward, Jaxson Hayes, Devonte Graham, and a 2023 1st (DEN)
Hornets get Myles Turner and Kira Lewis
Pelicans get Buddy Hield
They also had the Pels signing Boogie off that
Truly I love that for all parties
That is actually a trade I would be ok with.
The only question is would Buddy Hield be ok with it?
He's shown frustration as recent as last season not being able to start.
But he is sneakily a very good option off the bench as that 2/3 gunner that can play either with Jose or CJ for stretches. Finish games some nights when he's going off.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:27 am to TigerinATL
quote:
CJ Buddy BI Trey Zion
All scoring and no defense. Uncle Al would jerk it to this lineup.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:28 am to TigerinATL
when will the buddy trade talks end??
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