re: The Crewz Memorial Trade Machine Thread (TM)

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No one can convince me that any team in the league was offering Asik anywhere close to that deal.

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No one was going to give a mediocre aging center anywhere near that much money. Shouldve let Asik walk and signed Bioyombo on the cheap, but good lord even if you feel compelled to sign a mediocre center that is being phased out because you gave up a 1st for him, why on earth give him 4+ years and over $11M/yr?

Really gonna be a value deal when we hit year 4

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It's not the money either it was always the length. I wanted 2/$30 with the 2nd year being a player option but even 3/$40 seems like something he'd have taken and at least he'd be an expiring this year and much easier to dump.

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It's not just the length. The problem is that it was very clear from before he signed that any contract for him above MLE was going to be a handcuff that would require assets to dump. Why on earth do you sign that when casual fans can see that?

The 4/$50 with a last year team option that some proposed would still be garbage. I said from the start any Asik contract would be an anchor.

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This seemed like a good idea in hindsight for the first year or so, but his new contract is as bad as Asik's. Had we signed Biyombo we'd probably be in the same spot because even though he's playable, he's making $6 million more per year.

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We wouldn't be obligated to sign him to that contract...Toronto wasn't.

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Obviously, real +/- isn't the holy grail. It lost all credibility to me by having Solo ranked higher than: Melo, Barnes, DeRozan, Wiggins, or Fournier. You can have your analytics, replace Solo with any of those, and we would be a 4th or 5th seed in the West.

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Maybe Melo and Barnes.

But Johnson, Ross, Miles, Thabo, Snell, Bazemore, Roberson, Chandler, Green, Warren, Shabazz are not making this team a "4-5th" seed

We'd be the same if not worse with them.

I'm very anti-Solomon Hill, but some of those guys are so atrocious defensively you're better off putting a mannequin up on defense. Some are better offensively than him, but its not so great it'll make that large of a difference. A lot of those guys don't provide that level of "spacing" that is going to make the team that much better either.

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We wouldn't be obligated to sign him to that contract...Toronto wasn't.

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With AD's aversion to playing center and this team's sensitivity to that, yeah, they'd have resigned Biyombo.

If we could go back in time and undo Tyreke/RoLo but have everything else be the same, would we even be able to dump RoLo in this market where nobody wants a traditional center? He's got 2 more years around $14 each on his contract. So we honestly might be in this same spot no matter how things went down because AD just doesn't want to play center.

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It is not 'news'. It is logical move. May not mean anything.

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It means he's open to a buyout if he gets a good enough answer back from the teams in Turkey

bringing him back wasn't an awful idea. he played well down the stretch and helped them get into the playoffs.

now, it was obvious that he was a dinosaur w/ a meteor about to crash. plus he was closing on 30 w/ injury issues....scary for bigs. and they burned themselves post Rolo, so I get not being thrilled to play the cheap 5 game again. don't get 5/$55 or whatever it is



the thing that pushed it over the top was giving Ajinca, always a 4th big at best, 4 years as well.

they had a prototype modern big in Davis and 3 other bigs who couldn't guard an empty chair in space. and, yet, they doubled down on their 3rd and 4th bigs :dempsed:

Another interesting wrinkle in all this is QPon posted video of him taking corner 3s today. It would be so like this team to pay to dump a guy that ends up playing well for another team instead of being constantly injured.

Idk how any one that actually enjoys playing basketball, regardless of how much they're being paid, would not take a buy out to actually get to go play somewhere and enjoy it. Obviously he would be making a lot less but still a significant amount compared to the rest of the world. I mean asik has already robbed us and will make enough out of a buy out to still be set forever. Doesn't make sense why he wouldn't want to do it unless he loves being miserable.

My quotes in the 2015 FA thread BEFORE the contract was signed/announced when we thought it would be more like 4/$36 with a team option.

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Would rather see us go the Bismack Biyombo route if we can keep our exceptions. His contract could be ridiculously cheap in a couple years and at least there is upside.

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Of course we can move assets to make room, but why sign a contract like Asik that you cannot move? It's a handcuff, an anchor. giving mediocre players contracts in between max and MLE gets you in trouble.

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