re: Steven Adams to Pelicans in Serious Talks

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said floor spacer not floor spreader

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Huh

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I asked last night for someone to sell him as a true long term fit without magical thinking involved and have yet to see an answer to that.

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I see him as more of a medium term piece while Jaxon grows. A lot depends on what his value is on his next contract. If he's getting another 4/$100 he's not a long term fit, and we shouldn't be afraid to cut our losses and move on, see Asik. But if traditional center value has declined enough that he's closer to $10-$12 a year, I think you can easily afford him while Jaxon is on his rookie deal. And I think Jaxon will grow a lot while playing against him every day in practice considering that Jax' biggest weakness is being raw and out muscled.

I said last year that I'd take less for Jrue if it meant competing for the playoffs instead of trading Jrue just for future assets and becoming a team who's season is over by the All Star break every year. There's value in veteran leadership, there's value in winning, and there's value in playing with a crazy, tough son of a bitch who has played with elite players that is going to get in your face and push you.

Could Aron Baynes have given you a lot of that for less? On paper quite possibly, but I have to think Stan was consulted on this and he's a much better judge of that than we would be.

I also disagree with your general premise that we NEED a stretch 5 to be good offensively. Would it help sure, but shooting 3s isn't the only way to create space. So Adams not being a stretch 5 doesn't bother me like it bothers you.

Thank you Bronc! You can’t be critical of anything Grif does sometimes. He basically replaced Bledsoe for Jrue and Favors for Steven Adams (which are washes by the way) and netted a couple of first round draft picks (which are probably going to be late 1st depending on what Greek does in a few days). Yes Griff gets credit for getting those draft picks but you can’t tell me we are a better team with replacing Holiday and Favors with Bledsoe and Adams. We still have the same problems as we did before we the lack of shooters and floor spacing. Also, we’re speaking as if players are lining up to come here when they haven’t.

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Would I want to be giving up a first, a very valuable vet guard, and the future cap space needed to resign him? No

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Adams is clearly worth the DEN pick.
The vet guard was never a pelican
you have no idea what the future holds as far as cap space and/or Adams’ next contract

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but you can’t tell me we are a better team with replacing Holiday and Favors with Bledsoe and Adams

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You really don’t understand the purpose of the trade they just made, do you?

Woj confirmed that Hill and Miller are going to OKC.

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will you shut up?

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You know that he will not.

Mac

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Pels can make this team and use the MLE (hard capping themselves) but if they use the BAE, they start to get very close to the tax line and hard cap.

Choices basically are: Use MLE and minimum contracts to fill out roster or use equivalent of tax payer MLE and avoid hard cap

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One thing I hate about the NBA game is the soft picks.

Adams doesn’t play like that.

Adams is more vocal than Favors. You won’t be seeing Favors jump on the floor for loose balls or mix it up with the opponent. We need a guy like that. Also Hayes and Adams is gonna scrim a lot to where Hayes will get stronger from it.