re: Stein: Pels said to be 1 of teams willing to move out of top 10 for “win now” compensation

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Why is everyone so quick to move Hayes?

He averaged 61/35/76 and he's only just turned 22. He's progressively gotten better and he's still freakishly athletic.

Why sell when his value is so low?

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What do we do if he has another marginal improvement next year? He'll want $20M/year and we can't afford that.

He'll be entering RFA and teams know we won't/can't match (like with Lonzo). That's a best case scenario.

He may not really get much run next year if Zion is healthy b/c we also have Nance. His value could plummet.

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There was no reason to move down that draft. And really depending on who is there when we pick this year, absolutely no reason to drop 4 spots this draft. I was right the last time I said it was a mistake and we should have taken Garland.

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I wanted Garland in that draft too, but in this draft if it’s the choice of Daniels at 8 or Sochan and an asset at 12, give me option 2 all day.

I’m not 100% convinced of it, but one of:

Sochan
Griffin
Duren
Davis

Will be there

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To me moving back only makes sense if there are like 2-3 players like last year that we felt could have the same impact.

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I mean moving back makes sense if we get a guy like Lou Dort in exchange, but yeah, otherwise...not worth the risk if we really like Sochan.

I mean if we got Dort and ended up with Johnny Davis I'd do backflips, though.

*ETA: or Duren/Williams/Griffin

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Sochan and an asset at 12

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That’s cool in theory, but what do you do if he’s gone, which is very likely. Nothing is promised.

Dieng gang

Also if OKC wants that 8th pick so badly then give me the houston pick in 2024

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Didn't we move back last year and it work out?

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It was absolutely necessary to get off the horrible Adams debacle. An upgrade to our starting 5 isn’t necessary by trading down this year. Need to draft the best available now.

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If you don’t make future moves because you’ve made mistakes in the past you shouldn’t have the job of managing a basketball roster

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If you trade down yet again, knowing that type of move historically never works out well for the team trading down in the draft, then maybe you shouldn’t have the job of managing the roster.

What is a win now type move?

CJ, BI, Herb, and Zion have to be 100% locked in as starters. I can’t imagine bringing someone in that makes sense to displace one of them from heavy starter minutes.

The only starter type move I could see is a chang in philosophy away from JV

Also someone like Dort was a starter and is due for a contract. Is he really going to want a bench role.

Guys like Alvaraedo, Murphy, and Nance will be bought into the idea of a rotation guy. I think we need to keep stacking young cheap talent that will be cool with a rotation spot in the near term. This is an opportunity to get a more for sure thing instead of the gamble of later picks that playoff teams are stuck with.

We need to take our guy at 8.

IMO, Herb has to be a starter. He’s the only starter that is a plus defender. We need more defender minutes, not fewer. I would replace Jonas before Herb in the starting lineup (not that I think that is going to happen either).