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Stein: Pels said to be 1 of teams willing to move out of top 10 for “win now” compensation

Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:22 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:39 pm to
Possible targets?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:41 pm to
Hayes and 8 for 22 and Bane

One can dream
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:43 pm to
I think it will either be Daniels at 8 or trade back with OKC and take sochan
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:51 pm to
If we are somewhat confident that Sochan will be there at 12, we would be silly to pass up the opportunity to pick up an asset by moving back only 4 spots.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:54 pm to
I don’t think a “win now compensation” is doable with a 4 spot move back. Chances are it would be #8, Graham, Hayes?, Kira? for an actual starting level player. Brogdon/ Sexton types.

Lol at anyone thinking we would move back for a salary dump. This is an obvious take and our options are pick at #8 or add a player to help us compete immediately. The tax is irrelevant if we are competing for championships.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:58 pm to
if the opportunity to move hayes or graham is there you have to at least consider it. If there’s a better offer then obviously they’ll take it.

going to be interesting
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:05 pm to
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#8, Graham, Hayes?, Kira? for an actual starting level player. Brogdon/ Sexton types.


I can see them aiming higher like that, I was thinking it meant we wanted something like Micic/Dort more than more future 1sts. Or maybe 13 and a player from Charlotte rather than 15.

It feels like 16 and Huerter is falling back too far to get any of the guys we've been talking about the last few months.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:06 pm to
Graham and the first for kcp and wiz first leggo
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

I think it will either be Daniels at 8 or trade back with OKC and take sochan


You’d think one of Mathurin or even Murray might fall to us. We need to stay put.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8675 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:15 pm to
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we would be silly to pass up the opportunity to pick up an asset by moving back only 4 spots


Yea it worked out perfectly last time we only moved down 4 spots and picked up another asset…..
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:17 pm to
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Graham and the first for kcp and wiz first leggo


If Daniels and mathurin are both gone and Sharpe is staring us in the face, I’d probably be ok with this. But I think I’d still probably just take the gamble on him.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:27 pm to
I think #8, #41, #52 and Graham for Dort, #12, and #31 is on the lower end of what we want to do. I’d rather throw in a future 1st/ swap for a higher coveted player. (no offense to Dort and I think he’d be great for our team).
Posted by Kerchek
Member since Oct 2021
585 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:29 pm to
Why is everyone so quick to move Hayes?

He averaged 61/35/76 and he's only just turned 22. He's progressively gotten better and he's still freakishly athletic.

Why sell when his value is so low?
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14857 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:31 pm to
Banking on him not taking a step this coming season where he’s valuable enough to resign at his asking price. I would think the likelihood of him being moved prior to the trade deadline is incredibly high.

More importantly, I think his value is low, if he played for someone else what would you be willing to give up for him?
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 3:36 pm
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
951 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:31 pm to
Because he has one year left on his deal and we aren’t going to sign him. Not to mention he’s proven not to be able to handle the center position, and beyond his numbers, still finds a way to make enough negative plays to hurt the team.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:50 pm to
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Yea it worked out perfectly last time we only moved down 4 spots and picked up another asset…..


If you don’t make future moves because you’ve made mistakes in the past you shouldn’t have the job of managing a basketball roster.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:59 pm to
I agree with you. The point he’s making is that we tried to go 2 for 1 knowing they wouldn’t contribute immediately. It’s not worth it for this draft. If we have someone 1-8 that we trust will have a large impact now then we do it. Or trade the pick for a proven player that will have a large impact now.
Posted by lil 7thward
ATL
Member since Jan 2012
2586 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 6:20 pm to
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Why is everyone so quick to move Hayes?
I believe in Hayes. As AD said, growth isn't linear. The light comes on for different players at different times. People here have already written off Jax and Kira.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8675 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 6:21 pm to
There was no reason to move down that draft. And really depending on who is there when we pick this year, absolutely no reason to drop 4 spots this draft. I was right the last time I said it was a mistake and we should have taken Garland.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 6:22 pm
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