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Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:41 pm to PeliPelifactory
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:41 pm to PeliPelifactory
I like Brogdon but Maker does nothing for me.
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:40 pm to Soggymoss
quote:
If true, could you imagine how depleted we would be in the frontcourt tonight??
Well you're down AD and Niko so yeah. 42 came out with an article hypothesizing that the unusualness of Okafor's contract being a 2 year minimum suggests The/A plan is for him to take Randle's place if he gets traded. I'm not sure how viable that is. His foul rate the first 2 years was decent but it's been 5th big bad since then.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:53 pm to TigerinATL
Brogdon is a pretty nice young asset in return for Randle. Why would the Pels prefer Bledsoe to a guy whose proven he can play in a lower usage role at a really high level. I’d rather Brogdon over any of the other players mentioned, doubly so because of how much you control his rights.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:28 pm to ShamelessPel
Brogdon is a nice young asset but I would rather use Randle to get a better wing than him. It’s a good deal but we could wait to do better.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:55 pm to Mad Scientist26
I agree. Im not excited about either option, but especially not the Bledsoe/Snell one.
I was just saying I like Brogdon much more than the other players in either scenario.
I kind of would like to get fully healthy and see what we have and maybe make a move at the deadline if necessary. I don’t see much upside to moving either big now unless you get a chance on a needle mover that you can’t pass up.
I was just saying I like Brogdon much more than the other players in either scenario.
I kind of would like to get fully healthy and see what we have and maybe make a move at the deadline if necessary. I don’t see much upside to moving either big now unless you get a chance on a needle mover that you can’t pass up.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 12:02 am to ShamelessPel
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Brogdon is a pretty nice young asset in return for Randle. Why would the Pels prefer Bledsoe to a guy whose proven he can play in a lower usage role at a really high level.
I'm not sure it's that there's anything wrong with Brogdon. There's a lot to like about him as a wing defender and creator. But you're trying to convince AD to resign. Bledsoe is a bigger, more familiar name, it may be as simple as that.
Let's also dig a little deeper into the proposed trades.
Allegedly proposed by Bucks:
Bledsoe for Randle straight swap. Works more or less, Pels would need to send out a minimum player too.
Brogdon, Maker, 2nd for Randle. Works more or less, Bucks would need to send out a minimum player too.
Allegedly counter proposed by Pels:
Bledsoe/Snell for Randle. Now we're talking $25 million for $8.5. Pels would need to add another $12 or so. What do you want to bet the counter offer they turned down had Solomon Hill in it?
Posted on 1/1/19 at 12:11 am to TigerinATL
OP updated and said the counter had Solomon Hill in it on the first page. I worded that terribly. I didn’t think Brogdon for Randle was a good deal. I more thought that you could do worse than Brogdon if you got an asset in return it things went south this year and you suspect AD won’t re-sign.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 12:11 am to TigerinATL
I just can't entertain trading Randle.
Randle becomes the alpha when AD inevitably misses games.
Find other ways to add wings because we need Randle
Randle becomes the alpha when AD inevitably misses games.
Find other ways to add wings because we need Randle
Posted on 1/1/19 at 12:42 am to TigerinATL
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But you're trying to convince AD to resign. Bledsoe is a bigger, more familiar name, it may be as simple as that.
We are also talking about trading a guy that was recruited here (Randle) by a guy that doesn't recruit (AD). Is it a coincidence that the Pels could be entertaining a Kentucky guy for another Kentucky guy?
Posted on 1/1/19 at 6:26 am to Pelefraan 1
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Find other ways to add wings because we need Randle
Kent Bazemore?
Solo, Wes and a couple 2nd rounders?
Would saving ~$6.5M next year and adding picks be enough from the Hawks side?
Would Bazemore be a player that would fit on the wing for the Pels?
I personally kind of like Bazemore. Good athlete, long arms, gets steals, can create a little, and not a horrendous shooter.
Contract is up after next year so if you do have to move AD you’re not stuck long term
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:07 am to MrWiseGuy
Pels get Porter, Satoransky, Hood,
Wiz get JR Smith, Wes Johnson
Cavs get Soloman Hill, Etwaun Moore, Jeff Green, 2019 Pels 1st (2nd if you can get away with it)
Wiz get JR Smith, Wes Johnson
Cavs get Soloman Hill, Etwaun Moore, Jeff Green, 2019 Pels 1st (2nd if you can get away with it)
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:08 am to PeliPelifactory
Smart move by Bucks.
To retain Bledsoe they will need to overpay him much. Overpaying Randle - who is younger - makes more sense.
Brogdon will be RFA. He might ask for a fat contract.
Maker is thrash this season. And also is old - maybe not as old as Pappa Hield.
Bucks second rounder will be between 55-60.
I would decline it as well.
To retain Bledsoe they will need to overpay him much. Overpaying Randle - who is younger - makes more sense.
Brogdon will be RFA. He might ask for a fat contract.
Maker is thrash this season. And also is old - maybe not as old as Pappa Hield.
Bucks second rounder will be between 55-60.
I would decline it as well.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:39 am to pawel
Wtf it’s not 2016 Eric Bledsoe is not that great at all
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:52 am to pawel
quote:I agree he has been trash. However, he is not old.
Maker is thrash this season. And also is old - maybe not as old as Pappa Hield.
He is only 21
Posted on 1/1/19 at 8:05 am to NOSHAU
There is controversy about his age since the 2016 draft. He MIGHT be 2-4 years older. 'Might' does not mean 'is'. But...might.
This post was edited on 1/1/19 at 8:06 am
Posted on 1/1/19 at 8:26 am to Soggymoss
Here's my home run swing:
Wes, Solo, Frazier for Nic Batum and Charlotte's 1st (they save a TON of money and can now bring Walker back without going way into the tax)
Then,
Moore, Niko, our first and Charlotte's 1st for Bradley Beal
The team is thin still - Six starter level players plus Miller, Frank, Clark, Diallo, and Okafor as guys who can be rotation players. I would hope to get one or two more guys after buyout season. But that top 6, if healthy, gives you a nasty little squad. It gives you another star who is signed beyond this year to sell AD on. And Batum brings some leadership and experience. His contract stinks but that pick is necessary to get Beal.
Thoughts?
Wes, Solo, Frazier for Nic Batum and Charlotte's 1st (they save a TON of money and can now bring Walker back without going way into the tax)
Then,
Moore, Niko, our first and Charlotte's 1st for Bradley Beal
The team is thin still - Six starter level players plus Miller, Frank, Clark, Diallo, and Okafor as guys who can be rotation players. I would hope to get one or two more guys after buyout season. But that top 6, if healthy, gives you a nasty little squad. It gives you another star who is signed beyond this year to sell AD on. And Batum brings some leadership and experience. His contract stinks but that pick is necessary to get Beal.
Thoughts?
Posted on 1/1/19 at 8:47 am to Crewz
Would do that in a heartbeat.
Not thrilled about Batum, but if it helps get Beal, it’s worth it.
Jrue/Beal/Randle/AD is a very solid core that is good enough to be a contender with the right coaching and role players.
Not thrilled about Batum, but if it helps get Beal, it’s worth it.
Jrue/Beal/Randle/AD is a very solid core that is good enough to be a contender with the right coaching and role players.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 9:06 am to Crewz
I would love that trade. Do you think Wall’s injury makes Beal more or less likely to be moved?
Posted on 1/1/19 at 9:12 am to Pelefraan 1
Randle isn’t going to be here next season. Most logical piece to move.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 9:16 am to higgsBoson
Neither. Washington will move Beal if they get blown away by an offer. If they don't, they won't move Beal. They don't have to.
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