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So who has more trade value currently, Murray or BI?

Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:49 am
We just saw that Murray went for two firsts and a former lotto pick. Some Hawks fans think they got back about 90 cents in the dollar for what they paid for him lots of it depend on where the Lakers pick land. So we basically paid three first round picks.

I wonder if BI could bring back that in a trade right now. And his position is more in demand than a point guard.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:56 am to
Ingram no doubt if not keep him
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:56 am to
Probably about the same still.

Kessler + (2) picks

Dyson + (2) picks

Not that far off 3-4 1st
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:08 am to
Ingram by far

As I’ve been saying
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:41 am to
I remember when Hawks fans were asking for BI and multiple firsts.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:58 am to
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Some Hawks fans think they got back about 90 cents in the dollar for what they paid for him lots of it depend on where the Lakers pick land


It’s all about the lakers pick. Thats the only real asset sent out.

And it’s potentially a good one. Lakers will struggle to avoid the lottery in the west this year, and it’s a loaded draft.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:05 am to
How can you even say that when free agency hasn't even started. Until you know what their supporting casts looks like, there's no way to tell how good they will be. And that's the only reason why that pick still hold good value because it's the off-season.
Posted by Macintosh
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:10 am to
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And it’s potentially a good one. Lakers will struggle to avoid the lottery in the west this year, and it’s a loaded draft.
we’ve said this for most years and they turn out to do alright. Plus they’ll have 2-3 first to trade if they want a third star. Up to them if they actually want to compete
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:16 am to
Lakers will have father and son superpowers this season.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:28 am to
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and a former lotto pick


Context needs to be applied here.
Posted by MasterAbe1
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:42 am to
If Paul George doesn’t work out for the warriors, I wonder if they would pivot to BI
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5567 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:08 pm to
Whichever one commits to shooting the 3.

Otherwise they are both two long perimeter players approaching 30 who primarily score through midrange buckets and provide inconsistent defensive effort - so flip a coin.

For me, it’s Murray because I think his defense next to a guy like Herb could reach its potential, and his contract isn’t a team killer.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:54 pm to
We just traded for Murray, a guy Griff has coveted for a couple years now. He’s not going anywhere. We need to turn BI into Walker Kessler and Jonathan Isaac which would greatly free up some money and give you our starting and backup centers. The rookie would be the 3rd center his rookie year playing a lot in the G league.
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:36 am to
quote:

So who has more trade value currently, Murray or BI?




Atlanta wouldn't even give up Capella for Ingram. All this bragging about getting Murray without giving up Ingram, but in reality, Atlanta wouldn't do any deal that included them taking Ingram.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:12 am to
quote:

It’s all about the lakers pick. Thats the only real asset sent out.

And it’s potentially a good one. Lakers will struggle to avoid the lottery in the west this year, and it’s a loaded draft


Has to give them something back to get Murray. I bet it ends up being around pick 15.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:14 am to
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Atlanta wouldn't even give up Capella for Ingram. All this bragging about getting Murray without giving up Ingram, but in reality, Atlanta wouldn't do any deal that included them taking Ingram.


You don't really believe this. Do you?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Atlanta wouldn't even give up Capella for Ingram. All this bragging about getting Murray without giving up Ingram, but in reality, Atlanta wouldn't do any deal that included them taking Ingram.


Yeah that sounds some Atlanta BS. More like we didn’t want just Capela for Ingram. Atlanta trying to justify why they didn’t get Ingram back in the Murray trade.
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:42 am to
quote:


You don't really believe this. Do you?


Once the draft order is set, the offers for Ingram will start coming.
Griffin is waiting until the draft to make the move.
Teams are waiting on Paul George, then they will pivot to Ingram.
With George and Butler off of the market, teams will be desperate and Griffin can drive a hard bargain.
The teams that were after Bridges will now pivot to Ingram.
Now that Anunoby is signed, teams will turn to Ingram.
Detroit needs to hit the salary floor.
Everyone is just waiting on a potential Markannen deal, then Ingram will be the focus.
The Kings are desperate, Griffin can bleed them.
Ingram is the best available wing left.
I can't believe the Cavs preferred Cam Johnson. <--- You are here.
The Jazz are crazy for giving up that for Lavine. Griffin must be asking for everything.
Jerami Grant's deal doesn't look that bad with the cap rising. If Robert Williams can stay healthy, this will look like a steal. The first we gave with Ingram will be in the 20s anyway.


This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 11:43 am
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7775 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:48 am to
People just can't admit that Ingram completely destroyed his value so thoroughly.

He was such dog shite when he came back that all of his flaws are now exposed.

I remember a time people laughed at some of us saying Derozan was better or that Ingram was closer to Kuzma/Grant/Lavine level guys than what he was believed to be on here.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:53 am to
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People just can't admit that Ingram completely destroyed his value so thoroughly. He was such dog shite when he came back that all of his flaws are now exposed.


For me its whats best for the team even if we dont get full value for BI. Say we keep Ingram- not only do we have a shitty center situation but now we’re sending CJ AND Trey to the bench. How does that affect negotiations with Trey? What about CJ? Most posters have stated he’ll never come off the bench.

The hope is BI increases his value but no one looks at the other side- what if BI gets injured or plays even worse- his value will be even less.
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