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re: Rockets target Anderson. Pelicans have NOT shown interest in Omer Asik.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:14 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:14 pm to Fun Bunch
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His skill isn't rare at all.
legit rim protection is pretty rare
the past 2 DPOYs were rare rim protectors (and neither played at the same level of asik over both years)
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:14 pm to BayouFann
Go read about his poison pill in his contract. They back loaded it, but were allowed to prorate it and take an average hit per year on the cap.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:14 pm to tgr4ever
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Look man I love Ryno but this is not true. Asik is one of the only centers in the NBA that can handle Dwight. We need him.
I'm sort of onboard with this. I hate the idea of losing Anderson, but we really need a tough, defensive center next to AD. Whithey ain't it at this stage.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:15 pm to Jester
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Order those championship plaques, Tom.
what "building" moves do you expect with little cap room, other than exchanging solidified pieces?
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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legit rim protection is pretty rare
the past 2 DPOYs were rare rim protectors (and neither played at the same level of asik over both years)

He is a solid defender, but you are greatly overrating a guy with sub par block numbers.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what "building" moves do you expect with little cap room, other than exchanging solidified pieces?
You are pushing for a major trade. Other similar proposals can occur. Derp
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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rybot does not bring a rare skill to the table. rybot's skill is also pretty replaceable from our current roster.
Meh. Not exactly. Ryno is one of 7 guys in NBA history to shoot over 38% on over 6 3PA/G in multiple times. Some of the other guys are Allen, Peja, Lewis
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:18 pm to Jester
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but you are greatly overrating a guy with sub par block numbers.
Lopez had good block numbers. Did you consider him a good defender?
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:19 pm to VOR
quote:Dwight, Gasol/Randolph, Duncan aging like Benjamin Button...
I'm sort of onboard with this. I hate the idea of losing Anderson, but we really need a tough, defensive center next to AD. Whithey ain't it at this stage.
We need somebody
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:19 pm to tgr4ever
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Asik is one of the only centers in the NBA that can handle Dwight. We need him.
Dwight Howards stats vs Houston this past season...
28/13
16/18
16/12
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:20 pm to THRILLHO
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Lopez had good block numbers. Did you consider him a good defender?
I didn't take that huge leap in logic.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:20 pm to THRILLHO
Houston had the #1 half court D last year when asik was on the court.
gonna def miss that guy he was fun to watch.

Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:21 pm to Jester
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but you are greatly overrating a guy with sub par block numbers.
in 2011:
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Of all the players in the league to defend at least 200 plays last season, Synergy rated him first. The Bulls gave up 7.6 points per 100 possessions less with him on the court,
the stats from last year were posted and were similar (i think the ppg difference was in the high 6s)
rybot is a 40% 3-point shooter. the gap between that rate and the rates of holiday/gordon isn't that great (especially if our offensive efficiency bumps holiday's 3PT rate, b/c his system last year was shite)
like gyno said, guys like dorrell wright and martell webster are always available in free agency
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:22 pm to Jester
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You are pushing for a major trade.
link?
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Other similar proposals can occur.
you mean exchanging pieces we have for other pieces? that's not "building"
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
Omer Asik is now the most overrated player in the league. Never thought those words would ever be uttered.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:23 pm to Fun Bunch
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Omer Asik is now the most overrated player in the league.
que?
who brought up melo?
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:27 pm to corndeaux
I think one important thing people are forgetting in this argument is that ryno and AD could not be on the court at the same time last year. And AD is the franchise, not ryno.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:29 pm to ShamelessPel
Pretty neutral on this trade. Both guys will provide vital skills for this team. If we had more firepower on this team then I'd be all over it but it's kind of worrisome to think we won't have any great 3 point shooters if he goes and only 2 guys on the roster who make them with decent success. It's highly unlikely we ever get a center as good as or better than Asik, though, especially for defensive purposes.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:29 pm to tehchampion140
I WANT UPDATES, AND I WANT THEM NOW!!
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