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re: Pels waive Omri, signing Reggie Williams

Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:30 pm to
Posted by Silverfoxx
Member since Mar 2016
1121 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:30 pm to
Crewz you can't ignore that this move can question Loyalty with Boogie since that was his homeboy. All in all, I just felt like there was a better way to do this. The last thing we need to do is possible off Cousins.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:37 pm to
Is it possible? Sure, 1 or 2 percent. But if you think this move is gonna sway him 15 months from now, then you are delusional IMO. What is going to sway him is how he is treated. How the team performs, how the team treats ALL his teammates, etc.

I remember reading this same logic back when people said they couldn't cut Darius Miller because he was AD's boy. It's such BS. These guys understand the business and that they are trying to make the playoffs. They didn't do Casspi dirty in any way. People are reading WAY too much into this and are just in a crappy mood because of last nights butt kicking.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25932 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:49 pm to
I agree wIth you 100%. We are actually playing the long game when it comes to roster/salary flexibility
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:54 pm to
Yep, flexibility is more valuable than having the Bird Rights of just another guy. If you can't get someone similar or better than Casspi, then you never had a shot or doing something great to begin with
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13043 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:04 pm to
Half this board seems ready to give Casspi a 4 yr 25m deal it seems. He's a decent player but he's not going to move the needle. Not a great defender. Decent but not a great shooter. He would have been a piece for the right price but he's not what we need. I'd bet sizable money that they talked to Casspi, his agent, and probably Boogie/AD.

If he's gonna hit the free agent market looking for that type of money, let him test the effing water for once instead of vastly overpaying people brought in just to keep them.

Regarding the rest of the season, he now has an opportunity much like Jones to latch on elsewhere and play postseason ball or find a bad team that will overpay him. The Pels did him a potential favor.
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:10 pm to
The Pelicans are going to frick this DeMarcus trade up. He'll be in LA before you know it.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73960 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:20 pm to
He's from Mobile dude he isn't going anywhere!
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 2:25 am to
Well, I was out all night and am just seeing this...
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what in the actual frick. i hope there's some sort of hand shake agreement to bring him back. either that or Dell REALLY dislikes the dude.


I hope this is the case, similar to what everyone thought we'd do with Lance

I really hope
Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 2:29 am to
If only they took this hardline "you got injured? well, frick you" stance when the 3 three stooges were still in Pels uniforms
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 2:33 am to
I'll have to think about all of this in the morning when I'm sober. But this feels like our FO once again thinking short term instead of long term. Making a playoff rush this year isn't important. Making the right offseason moves is, not sure how this will affect that.

But Casspi seems like a nice piece involved in the trade and could be a solid role player going forward.
Posted by pawel
Warsaw, Poland
Member since Oct 2016
788 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 2:38 am to
1. Dont act like Dell is stupid. He is not. Do you think that one day he will do everything to make Boogie happy and after couple days risk everything? He must have talked with AD and DMC about it.
2. All those moves are the part of bigger plan. He let go Gallo who had PO. Let go Casspi Bird rights. For a reason.
3. Now he has 3 guys on 10day contracts. Some of them might be good additions. If they will fail. Than ok. Maybe they will sign Lance. Maybe another BDJ.If they will be fine he may give them longer and unguaranteed contract.
4. He looks for the healthy bodies. Casspi out for 4-6 weeks means that he will play at best in last 5 games. At best. Possible he is out for a year.
5. Playoffs is a main goal. DMC understands it.

I Love the shot on Captain Jack. Thompson might be useful.

Team is clearly cleaning cap space. For a reason.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 3:22 am to
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all these guards they are signing are terrible


The Gentleman is terrible?
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:52 am to
Yes. Im infinitely more disappointed that they signed Jarret Jack than with waiving Casspi.

Maybe its a locker room thing. Fine. But if they are going to play him 20+mpg, they are trying to tank. Tim Frazier is better

ETA- yes, I do realize it's only a 10 day contract. It's not that big a deal. Point still stands
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 5:57 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32751 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:35 am to
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And there is NOTHING preventing the team from signing him next season. Absolutely nothing. The team simply thinks Reggie Williams or maybe Quinn Cook after ten days or having that roster spot for whoever for 24 games helps more than maybe getting an out of shape Casspi back for 6-8, which makes all the sense in the world

You think releasing a player when they're injured is going to create goodwill with them? I doubt Casspi comes back unless we pay extra now. And the rest of the team will see what we did as well. They'll know the team isn't loyal to them
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13043 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:51 am to
quote:

You think releasing a player when they're injured is going to create goodwill with them? I doubt Casspi comes back unless we pay extra now. And the rest of the team will see what we did as well. They'll know the team isn't loyal to them


Good god. They just released an 11/6 big having a bounce back year because PT went down significantly, and they want him to get paid this offseason.

They just brought in a veteran PG they traded to GSW for the shite of it as a gesture of good will in an obvious tank season...so he could get paid. Yet he's back in a Pels uniform tonight!

No player that I've seen has actually taken pot shots at the front office this past few years. They've all taken pot shots at how bad the coaching was when here or had nothing negative to say,
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:42 am to
This thread just blows my mind. It honestly does. It just sounds like a lot of people repeating what they read elsewhere without an actual understanding of the options. And it seems pointless to try to talk those people off the ledge, because they have no ability to comprehend. So go again and enjoy your rage and fury over one of the most inconsequential moves in team history people. No point trying to educate any further
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:45 am to
Damn he was actually not a loser.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128032 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:48 am to
People wanted to keep Casspi's Bird Rights because it would have been part of the puzzle this offseason. Now it's not. Not a big mystery.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:01 am to
It's the overreacting that has infested Louisiana fanbases



Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:05 am to
It's also a bit of proxy outrage at 3 roster spots being occupied by guys not getting any minutes.
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