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re: Pels supposed intrigued with Kevin Love still
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:09 pm to tigerfan88
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:09 pm to tigerfan88
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We’re doing the Cavs a favor by taking love. I’d do the 4th plus Hill for Love and the 5th. Maybe for Love and an unprotected future Cleveland first.
Prob have to be slightly protected. This is the only way I think I'd be ok with getting Love. Because at least we could still get Garland or Culver in this trade.
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Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:10 pm to saints5021
Shackling this team to Love's contract is a sure way to sabotage any championship potential this team could have done the right... at the price of people wanting a piddling shot at the playoffs.
There is no scenario in which having Love on this team is a good idea.
There is no scenario in which having Love on this team is a good idea.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:13 pm to Unknown_Poster
There’s no good reason to take Love. None. We have draft capital and future assets already. Handicapping any flexibility you have to take on a monster contract on an aging, injury prone, and declining player is a crippling move.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:22 pm to WITCH DOCTOR
One positive for Love is that he has spent his whole career in Minnesota and Cleveland and has never complained about the market size.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:24 pm to saints5021
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One positive for Love is that he has spent his whole career in Minnesota and Cleveland and has never complained about the market size.
he's banging kate bock every night and signed a 100 plus mill extension. He's not complaining about dick.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:24 pm to saints5021
Why would he, when he gets paid big market money to underachieve and rehab with no repercussions. The old pelicans organization would do this move just so they can give him free fulltime rehab, lets not make the same mistakes.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:25 pm to Chad504boy
Oh Dear God NOOOOO.
That dude is WAY too injury prone
That dude is WAY too injury prone
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:25 pm to King Zion
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:29 pm to Unknown_Poster
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Love's contract
The other issue here that hasn’t been discussed is paying your 4th or 5th best player more than anyone else on the team.
I get that they’re all professionals and that other players’ contracts shouldn’t affect them in their day-to-day business, the reality is that it does.
Having your 4th or 5th best guy making more than your top-3 or 4 could potentially damage locker room chemistry. It wouldn’t be the first time it happened.
Of course, we all would like to think that our players are above being petty, do we really want to take the chance of finding out?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:41 pm to Fun Bunch
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The more I think about this, the less likely I am to melt over it. I can live with it.
Dude, he’s playing mind games. We are not gonna trade for Kevin Love unless the cavs are giving us a bunch of future assets and taking our shite contracts. He’s trying to create value with the 4 by making teams believe we covet a player like Love (was Beal) so that other teams will up the offer.
We are either trading that pick for a shite ton of assets that we can use in the future, or we are picking someone. We aren’t blowing our wad on a big arse contract.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:42 pm to touchdownjeebus
1.4 for Buddy Hield. 
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:50 pm to Philippines4LSU
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The other issue here that hasn’t been discussed is paying your 4th or 5th best player more than anyone else on the team.
Love would be your 1st or 2nd best player most nights. 3rd or 4th other nights. The Pels would have a pretty interchangeable hierarchy
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:55 pm to Lester Earl
exactly. he'd be a "primary scorer" if you want to phrase it in that way. and the older he gets, the more his usage will drop, and the more threes he'll shoot aka more spacing
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:56 pm to Lester Earl
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Love would be your 1st or 2nd best player most nights. 3rd or 4th other nights. The Pels would have a pretty interchangeable hierarchy
Fair enough point for his first year here (assuming he’s fully healthy).
Admittedly, I’m assuming injuries and age will take a toll over the course of 4 years, and that Ingram and Ball will continue to develop.
By his second year here, I would see at a minimum Jrue and Zion being ahead of Love, maybe Ingram and an outside shot at Ball. That’s subjective though of course.
20 and 10 does lose some of its luster when you only get it for 20-60 games though, and there’s no guarantee he could replicate those numbers here.
I do see your point however. As usual, you bring a good argument to the discussion.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 4:42 pm to Lester Earl
Think we need to post Love's contract numbers again to sober you guys up:
You all don't think Griffin can secure better players with that money during those years? Pels are finally at a place where they have an amazing young core and tons of cap space to augment it later and you want to add a declining and injury-prone bloated contract to that mix?
To add another number: average 60 games per year over his career and it's only going to get worse.
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2019/20 $28,942,830
2020/21 $31,258,256
2021/22 $31,258,256
2022/23 $28,942,830
You all don't think Griffin can secure better players with that money during those years? Pels are finally at a place where they have an amazing young core and tons of cap space to augment it later and you want to add a declining and injury-prone bloated contract to that mix?
To add another number: average 60 games per year over his career and it's only going to get worse.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 4:56 pm to Unknown_Poster
good fit outside of $$$, that's Claw money.
Niko and combo of Cauley Stein, Davis, or Dedmond will split that 30m to rotate and play with Zion.
Niko and combo of Cauley Stein, Davis, or Dedmond will split that 30m to rotate and play with Zion.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 5:23 pm to Unknown_Poster
Didn’t say I liked his contract, but he is the exact type of player we need,
Posted on 6/19/19 at 5:40 pm to Lester Earl
Don't need an injury prone 31+ year old with a horrible contract in year one of a rebuild. Even if his contract were somewhat more friendly it would be nonsensical to trade for him versus someone like Turner (which I'm not in favor of, either).
You guys are too concerned with rushing 'need' right after this team just acquire good assets.
You guys are too concerned with rushing 'need' right after this team just acquire good assets.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 5:52 pm to Unknown_Poster
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You all don't think Griffin can secure better players with that money during those years? Pels are finally at a place where they have an amazing young core and tons of cap space to augment it later and you want to add a declining and injury-prone bloated contract to that mix?
I dunno. Contracts are getting higher and higher and more and more guys are getting max deals. This is about cap space that's tied up in the AD deal for this year, so we can't use it on a FA this year anyway. Next year, are we going to be able to attract a quality guy for a max deal if we don't make the playoffs this year? Is Griff really planning to leave room for a max guy next year?
If we're getting future picks back, then I think this might make sense, because picks have low cap numbers, which will help offset Love's higher numbers.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 6:33 pm to Unknown_Poster
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Don't need an injury prone 31+ year old with a horrible contract in year one of a rebuild
taking on bad contracts in the beginning of a rebuild is exactly what you want to do because it gives you more future assets. plus if you believe Nelson knows what he's doing, you think you can keep Love on the court better than anyone else
most importantly you want to be ready to be a real threat in the west in about 3-4 years. right when Love's contract comes off the books and you have a max slot.
getting Love is the exact opposite of rushing. getting Kevin Love is a move with the future in mind
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 6:35 pm
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