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Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:42 am to whatiknowsofar
I'm ok with the trade depending on his health. My problem is this team has given us no reason to trust their injury evaluations. The only thing that makes me think it might be ok is that Bower's track record is just as bad and sold low on Tyson Chandler.
Jackson's attitude doesn't bother me. The team could use a little swag since Tyreke left and while AD and Jrue aren't going to push back, Cousins will put him in his place. The team also has enough guard depth to bench him if he gets out of line, that always got Tyreke to get it together for a few games at least.
Jackson's attitude doesn't bother me. The team could use a little swag since Tyreke left and while AD and Jrue aren't going to push back, Cousins will put him in his place. The team also has enough guard depth to bench him if he gets out of line, that always got Tyreke to get it together for a few games at least.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 8:44 am
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:44 am to touchdownjeebus
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We have the fricking Monstars playing C and PF
People keep saying this but I've never known AD or DC to be "pound it inside and then kick out to open shooter" type players.. both of them hover around the perimeter and either ISO or shoot long 2's
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:44 am to TigerinATL
So the ball stops moving and AD/DC become lawn furniture while Jackson plays hero ball, yay!!!
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:45 am to TigerinATL
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MM seems to like the potential of this move
There is that. I mentioned that a few days ago when we were talking about this possibility.
If we aren't giving up a pick, then it's essentially a Moore for Jackson trade, negative being the extra salary. I'd assume they are stretching Asik for this to happen.
While I like Moore, and think he's a bit under rated, especially defensively, there's no doubt Jackson has a much higher potential. It's a gamble, and it doesn't look like it's going to cost that much for this gamble.
This kid couldn't cut it with KD and Westbrook and wanted to be the star there. hopefully he is humbled by all of this and comes in with an attitude of team ball and wanting to win by any means necessary.
He's proven he can be a very good scorer, and great on the screen and roll. Playing all 4 guys together should give us a lot of options on offense. It should also help with the bench b/c I think for us to be a playoff team and not some 40 win maybe playoff team, minutes need to be staggered so that we only go about 4-8 minutes a game without both AD and Cousins on the bench, same for Jrue/Jackson, if this trade is a real possibility.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:45 am to touchdownjeebus
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Because that talented guard is Reke pt 2. We need outside shooters and facilitators not slashers. We have the fricking Monstars playing C and PF.
What outside shooters who facilitate are available to us? Why can't we still add them along with Jackson?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:46 am to jmcwhrter
AD never had a C like Boogie. AD is nasty near the rim and with Boogie that will be personified.
Remember how much dribbling at the key until 8 seconds on the shot clock sucked?
Remember how much dribbling at the key until 8 seconds on the shot clock sucked?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:47 am to NOFOX
If we are gonna trade frenchie and Solo, add a damn pick and go get Bledsoe. At least with him you won't get Reke PT 2.
Edit: and the dude can't play defense...
Edit: and the dude can't play defense...
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 8:49 am
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:49 am to touchdownjeebus
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If we are gonna trade frenchie and Solo, add a damn pick and go get Bledsoe. At least with him you won't get Reke PT 2.
It's Moore, not Solo. It's a neutral to negative contract and a negative contract. If Moore, Frenchir and the '18 1st would get us Bledsoe, then he would already be on the team.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:50 am to NOFOX
I sometimes send questions to Golliver and Prada. Respect those guys. Their inside and knowledge. Prada was high on NO last year and came back to earth. And went to national narrative.
Golliver hates Asik, Hill, Ajinca contracts. Called Jrues contract the worst in the offseason. Dont see a fit between AD and DMC. And Sharp is a guy who is going after popular trends.
They didnt watched a single Pels game. And they will make fun of any PG acquisition/trading pick.
How surprised they will be in couple months
Golliver hates Asik, Hill, Ajinca contracts. Called Jrues contract the worst in the offseason. Dont see a fit between AD and DMC. And Sharp is a guy who is going after popular trends.
They didnt watched a single Pels game. And they will make fun of any PG acquisition/trading pick.
How surprised they will be in couple months
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:52 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:Only because it is. Dell is all-in on this season in order to save his job. If it does not work, the remaining $35 million on Jackson's deal after this season is the next GM's problem.
I don't like this trade very much. It feels like desperation.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 8:53 am
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:54 am to touchdownjeebus
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If we are gonna trade frenchie and Solo, add a damn pick and go get Bledsoe. At least with him you won't get Reke PT 2.
I think that's part of why this appears to be a leak, he's not our first choice and we're trying to convince our first choices to shut up and take our money.
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Edit: and the dude can't play defense...
The year before he got injured his DRPM was -1.82, not that much worse than Moore's -1.58 this year. The year before that when he was playing in OKC his DRPM was -1.10, better than Moore's. I think the potential is there for him to be good enough on defense.
And I'm still hoping this is a smoke screen and we get Bledsoe, but I only think it's a disaster if his knee isn't right.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:56 am to jmcwhrter
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People keep saying this but I've never known AD or DC to be "pound it inside and then kick out to open shooter" type players.. both of them hover around the perimeter and either ISO or shoot long 2's
Demarcus has pretty much been top 6 or 7 in postups the last few years. He also gets fouled 25% of the time he posts up, and he's a great free throw shooter. The only person that gets fouled more than him on post ups is Dwight Howard, and that's b/c he's a terrible free throw shooter.
Gasol and Zbo have been top 5 in post ups the last few years. Cousins and AD are in the 5-10 range last 2 years.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:02 am to pawel
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I sometimes send questions to Golliver and Prada
I enjoyed your quote concerning Davis trades
Also, something that I've seen some places, and others I haven't. Does AD have a player option at the end of his contract? I asked Duncan about that when the contract was first signed and he reached out to Pincus and said that there was no option. But, now on some sites I'm seeing it listed that he does have a player option.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:04 am to Epic Cajun
On every cap page I see player option...
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:08 am to pawel
Spotrac doesn't have it listed. And I've never seen it reported. Wish we could get verification on that.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:09 am to touchdownjeebus
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Because that talented guard is Reke pt 2. We need outside shooters and facilitators not slashers. We have the fricking Monstars playing C and PF.
Last time we made the playoffs it was because of Reke. And we absolutely need to make the playoffs.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:10 am to Epic Cajun
Rather sign rondo and bring back Cunningham, bench of rondo, instant grits, d. Miller, Cunningham and either AD or cousins is more than serviceable
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:11 am to TigerinATL
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I think the potential is there for him to be good enough on defense
He is 6'3" with a 7' wingspan and potentially elite athleticism. Provided his knee is right and his athleticism is mostly back, he will be fine with Jrue and Solo protecting him, our simplified defensive scheme and lower usage rate on O.
Right after the trade in an article about freee agency Woj described him as a bigger and potentially better Bledsoe. I don't watch enough of him to know his ceiling, but the risk seems worth it considering Moore and Anjiica are replaceable background type players.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 9:13 am
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:15 am to NOFOX
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Last time we made the playoffs it was because of Reke. And we absolutely need to make the playoffs.
That was also running a far different system and concept. Monty liked to slow it down and isolate (even though Tyreke went too far at times). Pace and space is about as far from that as you can get in the modern game (no 4 corners).
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