- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
0
Posted on 7/10/14 at 12:19 am to RTR America
I believe so. At this point my head is spinning though. There are about 20 different ways we can get the Asik deal done. Some involve losing the mle, some don't
Posted on 7/10/14 at 12:25 am to eyeran
quote:
I believe so. At this point my head is spinning though. There are about 20 different ways we can get the Asik deal done. Some involve losing the mle, some don't
Well y'all go ahead and take your time to figure it out. 72 hours should be good.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 12:29 am to RTR America
At this point, dragging it out to make Dallas/Houston pay a heftier price on anything makes it good for the both of us. 
Posted on 7/10/14 at 5:47 am to eyeran
I suppose the Rockets could threaten us back with not doing the trade with us. Although Boston is out as a trade partner after the Thornton trade and they were planning to use our 1st to pay Philly to take Lin. Does Philly actually want Asik now that they have Noel and Embid? Their alternate trade partners could have dried up.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 5:55 am to TigerinATL
So when Utah matches in 72 hours, will Charlotte be drunk and desperate enough to think Gordon looks good enough to take home? They already got rejected by McRoberts. Let's hope all of the $10+ million FAs are off the board by then.
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 5:58 am
Posted on 7/10/14 at 6:20 am to TigerinATL
Our chances of moving EG are looking up imho. His contract is 2 years and arguably the same amount some of these guys are getting.
At worst we can flip him at the deadline.
Gordon for 2 years(and a possible large expiring in his 2nd?) or someone like stephenson for 5 years and probably more than 60 mil?
The teams looking to meet the salary floor make sense too.
At worst we can flip him at the deadline.
Gordon for 2 years(and a possible large expiring in his 2nd?) or someone like stephenson for 5 years and probably more than 60 mil?
The teams looking to meet the salary floor make sense too.
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 6:22 am
Posted on 7/10/14 at 6:27 am to LosLobos111
Can Stephenson play the 3? I think he can. Would love his defense and his ability from outside paired with Evans and Holiday. I know his attitude leaves a lot to be desired, but I think with the guys we have here and their work ethics he could be alright. Gordon + future pick + Ajinca?
Posted on 7/10/14 at 6:46 am to BallHawk
Stephenson is a UFA, you don't have to trade for him if you have cap space to sign him. And we just used the pick we needed to dump Gordon to get Asik. If we dump Gordon it will be because a team like Charlotte is desperate enough to actually want him, and it's not that crazy, if we didn't have Tyreke and the emotional baggage tied to Gordon since he came here, we'd probably see Gordon as enough of a fit to still want value for him rather than just his cap space.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 6:59 am to TigerinATL
quote:
If we dump Gordon it will be because a team like Charlotte is desperate enough to actually want him, and it's not that crazy,
I'll go to church on Sunday if it happens (although the only thing that bothers me about EG is his salary)
Posted on 7/10/14 at 7:17 am to RTR America
quote:
Don't y'all have to avoid going over the cap to use the MLE, even if it is only for a few days?
No, you actually have to stay over the cap to keep your full Non-Taxpayer MLE. If you drop below the cap, you end up lowing the Non-Taxpayer MLE ($5.305M) and get the Room MLE ($2.732M).
Something irrelevant, but I found interesting, the Taxpayer MLE ($3.278) is higher than the Room MLE.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 7:22 am to Galactic Inquisitor
This thread is pure cocaine, pure Colombian bam-bam
Posted on 7/10/14 at 7:33 am to TigerinATL
Tiger, I meant as part of a S&T. Just a thought.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 7:50 am to BallHawk
quote:
I meant as part of a S&T. Just a thought.
We'd be doing Indy they favor in that situation because they don't have the cap space or exceptions available to come close to replacing Lance if he walks for nothing. A S&T of Gordon for Stephenson even with Stephenson going to a 3rd team is very possible, but we shouldn't need to give up a pick to make that happen.
One thing of note I found out while looking at the CBAFAQ yesterday was I have incorrectly said we can S&T Morrow using the MLE. The MLE, Tax Payer MLE, and Cap Room Exception cannot be used in S&Ts. So we are pretty much down to Rivers vs. a S&T of Aminu/Smith/Roberts. I actually don't think a S&T of those 3 is all that unrealistic, the problem is the timing. Those are back of the line guys, it may not be easy to get them S&Ted in the first 3 days of FA meaning we'd have to trade Rivers instead.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:06 am to LosLobos111
quote:
Our chances of moving EG are looking up imho.
I understand the desire to trade him but do we have a plan in place for THIS offseason to fill the void? Trading him for nothing makes us worse in a season fans need to see a playoff appearance. He's still a decent player and him and Ryno coming off the bench has nice potential. I know his salary is double what it should be, attitude, injuries, etc., etc. I guess I'm taking over for tehchampion here but if he's working as hard as he says he is this offseason (first offseason he's healthy since coming here), I'm cautiously optimistic.
Now, if we're trading him to open up space for a 3, sure. But who? I'd rather pass on Deng/Ariza for the $$ they're about to get.
Best case scenario (don't know if it's even feasible) would be trading him for a pick to fit Asik in and convincing Pierce to sign for 2 years.
PG: Jrue/AR/Russ
SG: Reke/AR
SF: Pierce/Southerland/Darius
PF: AD/Ryno/Young
C: Asik/Withey/Ajinca
I'm sure I'm off/missing something here, just getting my coffee fix and thinking out loud
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 8:09 am
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:18 am to CQQ
quote:
I understand the desire to trade him but do we have a plan in place for THIS offseason to fill the void?
Gordon provided us mostly with shooting. If we can complete the Asik trade without losing Rivers and Rivers' catch and shoot numbers last year weren't a fluke, I wouldn't be too worried.
quote:
Now, if we're trading him to open up space for a 3, sure. But who? I'd rather pass on Deng/Ariza for the $$ they're about to get.
With the prices we're seeing now, I'd be reluctant to sign a decently reputable player. I'd take a flyer on a cheaper young guy and use the cap space to trade for someone already under contract like Dudley. Maybe you can even get the Clippers 2015 pick out of it.
quote:
Best case scenario (don't know if it's even feasible) would be trading him for a pick
Trading Gordon for a pick? You must be drinking that Irish coffee.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:30 am to TigerinATL
james johnson re signed with raptors
was a "potential" SF target
was a "potential" SF target
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:32 am to TigerinATL
quote:
Gordon provided us mostly with shooting. If we can complete the Asik trade without losing Rivers and Rivers' catch and shoot numbers last year weren't a fluke, I wouldn't be too worried.
Gordon's shooting was more than an occasional corner three. Who knows. If we start winning, some of the many uncalled hacks on Gordon may start getting called. Trading Gordon purely for space will definitely result in a less-talented and balanced roster this year.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:34 am to CQQ
quote:
He's still a decent player and him and Ryno coming off the bench has nice potential. I know his salary is double what it should be, attitude, injuries, etc., etc. I guess I'm taking over for tehchampion here but if he's working as hard as he says he is this offseason (first offseason he's healthy since coming here), I'm cautiously optimistic
I tend to agree. Just dumping him is a waste if you're going all in for the playoffs this year.
The need for a 3 is reduced due to Asik. He will rebound, he will control the paint, and he will cover for mistakes. Evans will likely play some with 2 other guards. Two one skill guys- a shooter and a defender- should be good enough from that spot for now.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:34 am to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:
Trading Gordon purely for space will definitely result in a less-talented and balanced roster this year.
Except that we will probably use that space.
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 8:37 am
Page 70 of 137
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News