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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way

Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
10054 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:59 pm to
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Hill: $11.7
Asik: $10.6




Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6156 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:04 pm to
Oh I was saying that in jest. He not coming here
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147175 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:13 pm to
Ginsberg on twitter tracking how playoff blowouts (4 or 5 game series) was a big factor in the drop in the salary cap projection

less playoff games = less TV advertising = less money going from Turner & Disney to NBA = lowe salary cap

LeBron & Steph need to start throwing a couple of those early round games to help the rest of the players in the Association... take 1 for the team
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13756 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 7:14 am to
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Ginsberg on twitter tracking how playoff blowouts (4 or 5 game series) was a big factor in the drop in the salary cap projection less playoff games = less TV advertising = less money going from Turner & Disney to NBA = lowe salary cap LeBron & Steph need to start throwing a couple of those early round games to help the rest of the players in the Association... take 1 for the team
U heard that discussion during the playoffs. I find it hard to believe that 1) there was already the expectation of 6-7 game series in the calculations and 2) that it makes that much of a difference in the cap.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 7:57 am to
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I find it hard to believe that 1) there was already the expectation of 6-7 game series in the calculations and 2) that it makes that much of a difference in the cap.


the cap jumped up by about $2M last year after the playoffs. it was expected to be at $92M and the league moved it to $94M after the Finals. so this isn't unprecedented

ETA- it's also about home gate revenue. reports were floating around that the Warriors would get an extra $11M by having a game 5 at home
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 7:58 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:06 am to
Just looking at this, there really is a lot of motivation to extend the playoffs, and there's only one way to reliably do that...dirty refs
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37080 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:10 am to
New max for 7-9 year players is 29.7 with the cap being 99 mil. Not sure if that's been posted here.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:16 am to
Another thing to point out for the people freaking out about trading Tim Frazier, there is another backup PG on the roster but he's officially listed as an SG. They ran Crawford as a backup PG next to Moore a lot last season and commented on how they liked that pairing. Crawford isn't officially a PG, but he was played like one last year.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:19 am to
i dont remember last year's playoffs being particularly good or interesting but you had two game 7s between three star studded teams in OKC, GS, and CLE.


they need the big time teams/stars to play on the biggest stage for as long as possible.


that could be a problem w/ the Warriors. the interesting thing is that the league has gone bananas and teams seem to be going for ways to compete with them rather than hibernating.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:56 am to
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The Phoenix Suns are attempting to trade Eric Bledsoe in any package they discuss with rival teams leading up to the draft. Bledsoe has two seasons and $29 million remaining on his contract. Phoenix has held trade talks with the Chicago Bulls on Jimmy Butler, as well as the Indiana Pacers on Paul George and the New York Knicks on Kristaps Porzingis. The Suns own the No. 4 overall pick in the draft.


Don't need Frazier with Bledsoe on the team...
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13142 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:19 am to
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ETA- it's also about home gate revenue. reports were floating around that the Warriors would get an extra $11M by having a game 5 at home


Whoof. This is poetic justice. Hopefully, the lowered cap due to this stupid incarnation of a team only means they will be further into the luxury tax eventually or will cost them valuable depth in players like Iggy or Livingston.

Off topic slightly, the NBA would be dumb not to re-consider the "top 16 teams in the playoffs" if Lebron goes West right?
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:46 am to
obviously, they'd like extra home revenue, but i dont know if a lower cap really changes much for the Warriors


quote:

NBA would be dumb not to re-consider the "top 16 teams in the playoffs" if Lebron goes West right?


i'm all for 1-16 right now. but they would have to figure out conferences etc...i'm a fan of Ziller's plan
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:50 am to
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They ran Crawford as a backup PG next to Moore a lot last season and commented on how they liked that pairing. Crawford isn't officially a PG, but he was played like one last year.


Exactly and with the Finch hiring we don't even need a true PG because the offense will run through the bigs. Moore, Q-Pon, and Crawford on the floor together while less than ideal would work.
Posted by That's BS
Smoothie King Center
Member since Jan 2012
1785 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:21 am to
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Moore, Q-Pon, and Crawford on the floor




Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130336 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:14 am to
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[Montemayor] Another source tells me #Suns & #Knicks are in fact "down the road" on #Porzingis ..."Bledsoe, Chriss, and the 4th gets it done" #NBADraft


Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:23 am to
I think it's kind of funny that a guy called The Zen Master and known for dealing well with difficult players appears to be letting stubborn pride make franchise changing decisions.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13142 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:28 am to
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Another source tells me #Suns & #Knicks are in fact "down the road" on #Porzingis ..."Bledsoe, Chriss, and the 4th gets it done" #NBADraft


What the shite. NYC is gonna melt.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130336 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:29 am to
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NYC is gonna melt


I honestly cannot wait to see the Draft hall if that goes down.

I honestly think it will be close to a riot.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:38 am to
I think I see what they're thinking. Melo has no trade value at all but Porzingis does. You get Bledsoe + Melo to "win" now and you get a young core of Chriss + 4 + 8 for down the road.

The silver lining for the Pelicans is that it should take another team out of the market for Holiday and shifts the leverage to the team. Hopefully they'll reduce their offer by $2 million to reflect the change in the cap projection.
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