- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
1
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:39 am to saints5021
Its never one or the other. He is always working multiple possibilities. The bigger moves require others to agree, so they happen less often, but that doesn't mean that he isn't working those paths just as much.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:01 am to Crewz
The smartest move right now would be to trade smaller expirings for bigger expirings, setting up trades for February. Just an example: Trade Ajinca, Okafor, and Liggins for Markieff Morris and Jason Smith. Use your exception to trade for Jodie Meeks. Wizards get under the tax and open up sports for guys they actually want to play. Pels effectively go from having one 5.2 million dollar expiring to use in a trade to having over 17 million in expirings with those three guys to use in a trade in February. And if those guys give you depth and some solid minutes until then, awesome.
That's one path I would be looking hard at if I were Dell. Doesn't have to be those three guys, obviously. But use every tool available to you to add bigger, expiring contracts to use when teams that are refusing to be sellers now become sellers in February
That's one path I would be looking hard at if I were Dell. Doesn't have to be those three guys, obviously. But use every tool available to you to add bigger, expiring contracts to use when teams that are refusing to be sellers now become sellers in February
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:11 am to Crewz
Do you think Dell thinks they can lure a big time FA next summer?
When we first lost Cousins, the first thing i thought about was the financial freedom we could possibly have next summer. But then you start hearing about how many teams will have money (heard on NBA radio Bucher say 29 of 30 teams will have at least one max available, although i'm not sure on that b/c i can't see how teams like Portland and Washington and OKC will have cap space at all much less a max) and i'm not so sure us having all this cap space is the route to go.
I think our best bet to get another big name here is through trade, and then hope they fit in and feel they can win here and resign.
I've got no problem trading away guys now to have more expirings for the trade deadline move, but honestly, i don't know how confident i would be that we could get an all star level player to choose to come sign here next offseason.
If there's an allstar level player out there i'd like to trade for in the next few months, it's McCollum, assuming the Blazers start falling and want to look at a mini rebuild and get away from the tax. I know he's not the SF we've been wanting, but i think he and Jrue playing with AD can get us to another level, and both can handle the ball enough to take turns playing off the ball.
When we first lost Cousins, the first thing i thought about was the financial freedom we could possibly have next summer. But then you start hearing about how many teams will have money (heard on NBA radio Bucher say 29 of 30 teams will have at least one max available, although i'm not sure on that b/c i can't see how teams like Portland and Washington and OKC will have cap space at all much less a max) and i'm not so sure us having all this cap space is the route to go.
I think our best bet to get another big name here is through trade, and then hope they fit in and feel they can win here and resign.
I've got no problem trading away guys now to have more expirings for the trade deadline move, but honestly, i don't know how confident i would be that we could get an all star level player to choose to come sign here next offseason.
If there's an allstar level player out there i'd like to trade for in the next few months, it's McCollum, assuming the Blazers start falling and want to look at a mini rebuild and get away from the tax. I know he's not the SF we've been wanting, but i think he and Jrue playing with AD can get us to another level, and both can handle the ball enough to take turns playing off the ball.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:18 am to TeddyPadillac
He might think they can, but I don't think its very realistic. Instead of looking at the players as a collective and thinking, "Well, there will be 8-10, we are bound to get 1"
Look at each individually and it would be hard for me to believe we would even be in the top 3 for any of those guys.
But I think you have a 100% chance of landing a Kemba or a Barnes or an Otto Porter or a Mike Conley or a Dragic or somebody at that level this February if you combine expirings with Moore or expirings with a pick.
Look at each individually and it would be hard for me to believe we would even be in the top 3 for any of those guys.
But I think you have a 100% chance of landing a Kemba or a Barnes or an Otto Porter or a Mike Conley or a Dragic or somebody at that level this February if you combine expirings with Moore or expirings with a pick.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:23 am to Crewz
While I don't think it probable, I don't think it's entirely unrealistic that someone would see a guy like AD in his prime and a guy like Jrue playing at his current level as a potential destination. We would maybe need to overpay to lure someone in, but yeah our best bet is to acquire some via trade. I mean, wouldn't it be great if OKC crashes and burns and we trade for PG-13 (pipe dream!)?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:34 am to Crewz
quote:I like that idea. I wonder if the Pels are willing to spend the extra cash to do that.
The smartest move right now would be to trade smaller expirings for bigger expirings, setting up trades for February. Just an example: Trade Ajinca, Okafor, and Liggins for Markieff Morris and Jason Smith. Use your exception to trade for Jodie Meeks. Wizards get under the tax and open up sports for guys they actually want to play. Pels effectively go from having one 5.2 million dollar expiring to use in a trade to having over 17 million in expirings with those three guys to use in a trade in February. And if those guys give you depth and some solid minutes until then, awesome.
That's one path I would be looking hard at if I were Dell. Doesn't have to be those three guys, obviously. But use every tool available to you to add bigger, expiring contracts to use when teams that are refusing to be sellers now become sellers in February
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:40 am to Crewz
I agree.
You look at the FA's next year
Klay
DJ
Kemba
Cousins
Horford
Irving
Love
Barnes
Gasol
Butler
Kawhi
And that's just the allstar level players. I could not see any of them considering us as a top choice, except maybe Barnes.
There's a ton of other guys that are on that next level that will be available like:
Niko
Randle
Rubio
Valanciunas
Danny Green
Reddick
Vucevic
Teague
Bledsoe
Middleton
Dragic
Whiteside
KCP
Tobias
Thad Young
and there are ton more that are good NBA players that are much better than minimum players that will be available as well.
not to mention KAT and Porzingis will be RFA.
There's a lot of guys that need to get paid next offseason. i know everyone is supposed to have money next offseason, but with the amount of guys that are available, it might run out faster than you think. Without a doubt guys are going to get overpaid, just like 3 years ago.
You look at the FA's next year
Klay
DJ
Kemba
Cousins
Horford
Irving
Love
Barnes
Gasol
Butler
Kawhi
And that's just the allstar level players. I could not see any of them considering us as a top choice, except maybe Barnes.
There's a ton of other guys that are on that next level that will be available like:
Niko
Randle
Rubio
Valanciunas
Danny Green
Reddick
Vucevic
Teague
Bledsoe
Middleton
Dragic
Whiteside
KCP
Tobias
Thad Young
and there are ton more that are good NBA players that are much better than minimum players that will be available as well.
not to mention KAT and Porzingis will be RFA.
There's a lot of guys that need to get paid next offseason. i know everyone is supposed to have money next offseason, but with the amount of guys that are available, it might run out faster than you think. Without a doubt guys are going to get overpaid, just like 3 years ago.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:46 am to TeddyPadillac
Also, when looking at that list, I think it is much more realistic that we can bring back Randle on a 1+1 next summer where he gets 10 million in the first year and a wink-wink that we will take care of him the following summer when we have early bird rights.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:50 am to Crewz
I think trading for a guy at the deadline could give us an edge in bringing him back next summer as well. Barnes or Kemba makes sense in that category. Middleton even.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:57 am to Crewz
I don’t know if a wink-wink deal from the Pels front office holds much weight after the Boogie situation. Granted, the Pels did do the right thing in that circumstance by not paying Boogie the max and were still much more generous than the market dictated.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 11:11 am to BallHawk
quote:
I think trading for a guy at the deadline could give us an edge in bringing him back next summer as well. Barnes or Kemba makes sense in that category. Middleton even
Exactly. I think you use PG and OKG as a model. No way he's there if they tried to outright sign him with capspace. But if you trade for a guy, get his Bird rights, and get him around AD/Jrue for a year I think you're much more likely to keep him.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 11:13 am to BallHawk
We should be doing what we can to bring in these b-caliber players like Middleton, Barnes, porter, etc when those teams become sellers.
The truth is we are not an a-caliber destination. We have ad and jrue, we need good role players on decent salaries 15-20m instead of another star for 30mil+ IMHO
The truth is we are not an a-caliber destination. We have ad and jrue, we need good role players on decent salaries 15-20m instead of another star for 30mil+ IMHO
Posted on 7/10/18 at 11:30 am to Garden of Asik
Thats why you give Randle a 1+1. If he gets hurt, he can opt in the following year at 11 mil. Thats his worst case scenario. So, he is protected either way
Posted on 7/10/18 at 11:50 am to Crewz
The only reason 1 + 1s exist is for player insurance
Posted on 7/10/18 at 2:21 pm to Pelefraan 1
quote:
A decision from Ennis’ camp is expected by Wednesday, a person with knowledge of the talks said. Depending on Ennis’ salary, the Rockets could spend more on Ennis in salary and taxes than they would have if Mbah a Moute had accepted their $2.4 million offer because Mbah a Moute’s years of service would have had his salary cost just $1.5 million and count that much in tax calculations.
From the FA Thread on the MSB...looks like Ennis to Houston?
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:28 pm to BallHawk
What about trading for Jermey Lin?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:44 pm to Silverfoxx
quote:
What about trading for Jermey Lin?
I can't see the Nets trading away expiring contracts unless they are getting them back as well. They want to have 2 max contracts available next offseason.
We could send them Ajinca/Diallo/Liggins and that would work, as we would take back more money, not that it really matters.
Problem is we have no idea if Jeremy Lin has recovered. This is from 2 days ago saying he's still not ready, but expects to be ready for training camp. LINK
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:53 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
Sources: The Pelicans and restricted free agent Rodney Hood have discussed a multi-year contract. NOLA is seeking a scoring wing.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:56 pm to GynoSandberg
Unless we gave him the min not quite sure how we’d get him unless it’s sign and trade
Page 44 of 86
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News