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re: NP - Ja Morant flashes gun in new IG video

Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:47 pm to
He deserves a full season’s suspension with no pay. He deserves to have every sponsorship deal/shoe deal yanked from him as well. He also needs to go to mandated rehab/counseling for 6 months.

And tbh, as harsh as those punishments might sound, they might actually serve as an appropriate wake-up call to save this kid’s career and even life.

The nba tried the firm slap on the wrist route. There was also a lot of negative publicity and embarrassment that Morant had to deal with.

These punishments and fall outs still didn’t seem to click or make a true impact. So the next steps need to be severe. Otherwise. He will likely never get it enough to correct his behavior.
Posted by M3From225
Member since Feb 2021
332 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:47 pm to
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Can take the kid out of the ghetto but can’t take the ghetto out of the kid. How so many of these athletes just throw away the world on a platter handed to them blows my mind. I hope he gets the help to change his life and his circle of friends.


He's not from the ghetto though
Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
4513 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:17 pm to
dude is not from the hood at all. he must be extremely insecure to be this successful and good at basketball to not feel comfortable in his own skin. or he’s just dumb as frick….
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104010 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:30 pm to
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he’s just dumb as frick….


“At this point, you’re either doing this on purpose or you’re dumb as frick.”

“I’m dumb as frick, I’m sorry!”
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:36 am to
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He deserves a full season’s suspension with no pay


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He also needs to go to mandated rehab/counseling for 6 months.



Damn. Was he on drugs or drunk? Did he relapse? Why would he go to rehab?

I honestly don't see why everybody is so upset. It's a cultural thing I don't understand. But it's not unusual. Most rap videos are guys holding guns and saying a bunch of incoherent stuff with harsh language. It looked like they were mimicking or doing something similar. It could be a prop gun.

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These punishments and fall outs still didn’t seem to click or make a true impact. So the next steps need to be severe. Otherwise. He will likely never get it enough to correct his behavior.


There are legal obstacles and standards that have to managed. I'm sure Morants' legal team advised him to go along last time to mitigate circumstances. It worked. But he'll fight more strict penalties and he'd win if the league goes too far. There is a line they can't cross. They certainly can't void his deal..
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27528 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 6:30 am to
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It could be a prop gun


Lol never change mark
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 6:41 am to
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Lol never change mark


I'm not defending him. I'm just saying that there would be a legal fight if they go the extreme, like suspending him for a season or messing with his contract. He would fight legally and the union would have to support him. He is taking a huge beating publicly, so I'm sure his legal team will go into crisis management mode. He'll be advised to go along again, which he will probably follow. This will be a blip on his wiki in a year.

I've just seen way worse behavior with far less repercussions. Players love to hang out with rappers and are in their videos, with guns all around them. Shaq was in a video like 30 years ago with fushnickens or something like that talking about shooting people with a mac-10. Him, Dennis Scott and Nick Anderson bragged about staying strapped all the time. It nothing new..
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:30 am to
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I honestly don't see why everybody is so upset. It's a cultural thing I don't understand. But it's not unusual. Most rap videos are guys holding guns and saying a bunch of incoherent stuff with harsh language. It looked like they were mimicking or doing something similar.
And you don't have any level of understanding the difference between representing the Grizzlies and Nike and those rappers you're referencing? No understanding of that at all?
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It could be a prop gun.
Oh
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:34 am to
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I've just seen way worse behavior with far less repercussions. Players love to hang out with rappers and are in their videos, with guns all around them. Shaq was in a video like 30 years ago with fushnickens or something like that talking about shooting people with a mac-10. Him, Dennis Scott and Nick Anderson bragged about staying strapped all the time. It nothing new..

So you insinuate it's a normal thing but the only example you have is from 30 years ago, correct?

What players are in rap videos waiving around guns?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130247 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:39 am to
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He deserves a full season’s suspension with no pay.


Come on. The guy needs some help in the sense that he needs to get some perspective, and he needs some former ganstas to talk sense to his arse and get him away from all of this shite.

Make generational wealth young man. Get away from all this BS.

Suspended for the whole season? No.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130247 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:41 am to
This is one of the few times where I will say...he needs someone like Lebron to get him under his wing and talk some sense to him. I can't stand Lebron but that dude has never been in trouble and seems to be a good family man.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7921 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:49 am to
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I honestly don't see why everybody is so upset. It's a cultural thing


Sums up so much about this country
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:53 am to
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This is one of the few times where I will say...he needs someone like Lebron to get him under his wing and talk some sense to him. I can't stand Lebron but that dude has never been in trouble and seems to be a good family man


It's management. The right people could turn him around quick. You send Morant and Williamson to the Heat. Watch what happens..
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:59 am to
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This is one of the few times where I will say...he needs someone like Lebron to get him under his wing and talk some sense to him. I can't stand Lebron but that dude has never been in trouble and seems to be a good family man.

I definitely don't disagree. A Lebron type or an already retired player to try to mentor him certainly can't hurt.

But...


The level of stupidness of what he just did, it's so unfathomable and just so far out there that I think it's at a point where only Ja himself can fix this, if that makes sense. If the 1st incident didn't make him see the light and he thought he was so untouchable that he did the exact same thing again, I'm just not sure what Lebron could tell him to make him not be so stupid. It just feels like it's on him now.


I can't wait to hear his 1st public statement. It's probably going to be exactly like the last one. I don't know what he can say that everyone won't think is complete BS, whether it is BS or not. He doesn't deserve for anyone to believe a word he says, so I almost think that he should just never release a statement lol.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:01 am to
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I honestly don't see why everybody is so upset. It's a cultural thing
Can you expand on and tell us more about this culture that involves guns?

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:42 am to
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I've just seen way worse behavior with far less repercussions.


sure, when it's a first time offense.

When you just got suspended for 8 games for doing the same thing, then the second punishment is going to be a lot harsher.
Year long seems a bit excessive, but i would think it should be at least 30 games.




Stephen A Smith actually said something about the incident that i really liked, that doesn't just apply here, but to the entitled young generation in general:

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"The NBA is a private industry. They don't want to see that. They are not tolerating that. You're compromising their bottom line when you're finding yourself in those situations. So what they are going to do is make sure that if you even hint at compromising their bottom line, they are going to compromise yours. That is the way this works.
You don't get to make the rules when you got your hand out for somebody else's money. Those who have the gold, make the rules, and that's something that people have a resistance towards embracing and accepting, but you better grow up and accept it."


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130247 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:57 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:59 am to
Kwame Brown went hard. Other than the N word rant at the end of his 5 minute video that I won't endorse for obvious reasons lol...everything Kwame said was spot on.


He also nailed exactly how you handle any situation similar or not remotely similar as a friend. If a friend is doing something you don't agree with, you tell them 1 time and 1 time only. After that, you let it go and that's that. And then he expanded on it a bit more but that was the main theme.

That's legit perfect friend advice.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20971 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:59 am to
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This is one of the few times where I will say...he needs someone like Lebron to get him under his wing


It's really the same problem that the Grizzlies had with Dillon Brooks. There's just no real leadership on that team. Doesn't have to be LeBron -- even somebody like CJ McCollum would have been a huge asset. I don't see how Taylor Jenkins can continue to remain Memphis's coach, as the team is just falling apart.

If I were a casino, I'd put the bedding line on Ja's suspension at 35 games. It's going to be very hard for Memphis to be successful next season with what they're facing.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 10:01 am to
I was thinking too, it's obvoius that this whole tough guy/fake gangster thing is arguably the most important thing in Ja's life that he cares about more than anything.

But with each incident that comes out, I wonder how mad it makes Ja that he wants to be the tough guy but dudes like Kwame Brown and well, 95% of other people are just pointing and laughing at him and how not tough he is. That has to be eating him up so badly right now.
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