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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:35 pm to Pels_Yaz
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:35 pm to Pels_Yaz
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I like myself some Karlo. I wonder if we see him in summer league?
Wrong guy who never played here. Liam Robbins.
Probably still has a better chance with 1 leg than Matkovic.
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Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:36 pm to 50_Tiger
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Bro we can do so much better than frickin Podz, Moody and frickin 4 picks
He said they want Kuminga too.
So you'd be looking at (4) 1st + Hawk + 1 of BI/ Herb.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:38 pm to Dantheman504
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Part of a "war chest" includes having your own picks and young assets too. We haven't even touched our war chest.
I should have said what’s left of our war chest. He used most of it getting out of bad decisions he made.
Having your own picks is not a war chest. If that’s the case every team has a war chest then.
We had two picks left, we gave up the extra Lakers pick that very well could be in the lottery b/c no way AD and Lebron stay as healthy as last year.
And whatever of the other two is lowest. So we don’t have any other future picks. Yea we can trade BI, but maybe he stays here. We have no future war chest. It’s gone now.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:38 pm to Dantheman504
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Probably still has a better chance with 1 leg than Matkovic.
Pels brought Karlo back for a reason. There’s some hope there but we’ll see. Honestly I think Missi and Karlo should be fighting for the 3 spot at center this year.
The fact they’re letting centers go in free agency makes me think they have something lined up.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:43 pm to Townedrunkard
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Having your own picks is not a war chest. If that’s the case every team has a war chest then.
We had two picks left, we gave up the extra Lakers pick that very well could be in the lottery b/c no way AD and Lebron stay as healthy as last year.
Yes having your own picks and players is a "war chest" on its own. Look at the hell Clips/ Lakers/ etcc are going through.
You are not considering BI/ CJ/ Herb/ Trey/ Hawk in this war chest.
Just because we won't trade them doesn't mean they aren't a part of it or don't get included in assets attained through trades.
Even excluding our picks the war chest is BI/ Murray/ CJ/ Hawk technically. You can do whatever you want with those assets alone.
You do realize "war chest" just means "bulk assets"
This post was edited on 7/2/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:44 pm to Large Farva
Plan G is Griff going full circle and bringing back Adams.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:46 pm to Dantheman504
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Yes having your own picks and players is a "war chest" on its own. Look at the hell Clips/ Lakers/ etcc are going through.
By yiur own words the Lakers also have a war chest then. They could have gotten Murray for Reeves, but declined. They can trade AD and bring back a haul.
By your definition, no one should be using the term war chest, outside of OKC then.
This post was edited on 7/2/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:50 pm to Dantheman504
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You are not considering BI/ CJ/ Herb/ Trey/ Hawk in this war chest. Just because we won't trade them doesn't mean they aren't a part of it or don't get included in assets attained through trades.
Generally you don’t include your star players in the term war chest. OKC does not include Shai or Chet in their warchest. Its basically their draft capital. The whole point of using your warchest is building a great team around your star or using draft capital to get another star.
This post was edited on 7/2/24 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:53 pm to Townedrunkard
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By yiur own words the Lakers also have a war chest then. They could have gotten Murray for Reeves, but declined. They can trade AD and bring back a haul.
No. Because they can't do both...
We have a "war chest" which means we have so many assets that we can use many of those assets and still have many assets.
They do not have that leverage or luxury.
Houston/ OKC/ Pels/Spurs are leading the way there.
And its really us and OKC. SAS/ Hou haven't matured enough yet but can pull the trigger if wanted.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:54 pm to Pels_Yaz
Wouldnt mind the Theis pickup as the backup. But, Im more than confident Griff has his target in sights and just trying to iron out the specifics and include whomever else we can get that WILL contribute to this team.
Griff doesn't get players in trades for the sake of doing so. Everyone he acquires will have a purpose and a vision of contributing to this team in a meaningful way.
I cant wait to see what Griff pulls out the hat. For all the negatives about Griff, when he makes a big trade, it usually pans out. It's the smaller, peripheral ones that he can crap out on. Gotta feeling by tomm., whatever trade is being contemplated will be revealed.
Side note: Atkinson wants to keep Allen in Cleveland. D. Mitchell signed his extension. All signs point to Cleveland keeping Allen which forces Griff to look elsewhere.
I think Griff now has his sights firmly set on Kessler, tbh. Griff gonna make a third team foot majority of the bill to Danny's demands. I'd be surprised if this is not the route Griff is going.
Griff doesn't get players in trades for the sake of doing so. Everyone he acquires will have a purpose and a vision of contributing to this team in a meaningful way.
I cant wait to see what Griff pulls out the hat. For all the negatives about Griff, when he makes a big trade, it usually pans out. It's the smaller, peripheral ones that he can crap out on. Gotta feeling by tomm., whatever trade is being contemplated will be revealed.
Side note: Atkinson wants to keep Allen in Cleveland. D. Mitchell signed his extension. All signs point to Cleveland keeping Allen which forces Griff to look elsewhere.
I think Griff now has his sights firmly set on Kessler, tbh. Griff gonna make a third team foot majority of the bill to Danny's demands. I'd be surprised if this is not the route Griff is going.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:57 pm to Dantheman504
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Houston/ OKC/ Pels/Spurs are leading the way there. And its really us and OKC. SAS/ Hou haven't matured enough yet but can pull the trigger if wanted.
We really don’t. The Jazz and Nets warchest in terms of draft capital is better. Our best asset in terms of warchest we traded for Murray. We don’t have one anymore and thats ok. But stop making this assumption we have this huge warchest.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:57 pm to Ijuschill1
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Atkinson wants to keep Allen in Cleveland. D. Mitchell signed his extension. All signs point to Cleveland keeping Allen which forces Griff to look elsewhere. I think Griff now has his sights firmly set on Kessler, tbh. Griff gonna make a third team foot majority of the bill to Danny's demands. I'd be surprised if this is not the route Griff is going.
I think thats Cleveland just saying we want more for Allen.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:00 pm to Ijuschill1
Kenny Atkinson, Cavs new coach, doesn’t want to trade Jarrett Allen despite interest from other teams.
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It’s getting more and more likely that BI is back next year. Remember that Atkinson developed Jarrett Allen in Brooklyn.
It’s getting more and more likely that BI is back next year. Remember that Atkinson developed Jarrett Allen in Brooklyn.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:01 pm to saintslsupels
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It’s getting more and more likely that BI is back next year.
Funny how 2 people can see the same thing and come to different conclusions. They already said they weren't looking to move Allen before Atkinson signed, no need to leak it again, unless you're posturing with potential trade partners.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:03 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Generally you don’t include your star players in the term war chest. OKC does not include Shai or Chet in their warchest. Its basically their draft capital. The whole point of using your warchest is building a great team around your star or using draft capital to get another star.
Yes exactly...
You mentioned (2) players who obviously wouldn't get traded.
Keep any (4) of CJ/Zion/ BI/ Murray/ Trey/ Herb.
Take the other (2) + (4) 1st + (2) swaps and you should be able to do just about anything.
You do realize if you have enough players to get a star without using your picks then you still have a "war chest"?
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:04 pm to TigerinATL
I personally don’t think they trade Allen regardless of what they are saying to the media. He’s a good player, was really good last year and Mitchell is buddies with him.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:08 pm to Dantheman504
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Take the other (2) + (4) 1st + (2) swaps and you should be able to do just about anything. You do realize if you have enough players to get a star without using your picks then you still have a "war chest"?
Then every team in the league has a warchest. You think having CJ and BI makes us have a warchest? The term warchest is used an exaggerated definition of having a collection of assets- “people want”- which is usually draft capital and maybe young stars. Having players over 30 making 30 mill or another player due for a big contract- is not exactly part of a “warchest.”
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:08 pm to Dantheman504
Holy shite how long is this stupid “war chest” argument going to go on for?
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:10 pm to TigerinATL
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They already said they weren't looking to move Allen before Atkinson signed, no need to leak it again, unless you're posturing with potential trade partners.
I wonder what other team could be in talks besides us.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:10 pm to saintslsupels
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Holy shite how long is this stupid “war chest” argument going to go on for?
Hes making up weird definitions to validate his point. Its just ridiculous. But I’ll stop.
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