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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:01 pm to Dantheman504
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:01 pm to Dantheman504
In other words I'd rather trade BI for a young player and picks. And use cap space to sign free agents that fit instead of handicapping ourselves with players on contracts for salary matching purposes.
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:01 pm to duyp
I never thought he was that good of a coach.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:02 pm to Soggymoss
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Hawk fans are coming around to the idea of a BI/Dyson for Murray/Okongwu… Hmmm
For WIW this guy is one of the first ones that started on the Clingan to Atlanta train from what he said he was hearing before anyone else.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:04 pm to Soggymoss
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:06 pm to Soggymoss
Let's gooooooooooooooo 2025 draft pick
(Watch this dude become the greatest coach ever)
(Watch this dude become the greatest coach ever)
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:08 pm to Soggymoss
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We could trade BI and take nothing back and still not have enough cap space to sign anyone
Uhhhh this is NOT true...
We have about 18mil in current cap space for next season right now.
If we trade BI we have 55mil in cap space next season...
If you include Nance then we would have 65mil without taking anything back.
I don't think Trey will be getting a 60mil deal so we should be safe.
If we unload CJ/BI/ Nance then we have about 96mil in free space.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:08 pm to Soggymoss
I really don’t want to give up Daniels. But I mean all in all, Ingram/Daniels for Murray/Okongwu seems fair I suppose. We know they aren’t getting Herb.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:11 pm to Dantheman504
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We have about 18mil in current cap space for next season right now.
Space under the tax is not the same as cap space bro
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If we trade BI we have 55mil in cap space next season...
If we trade BI and take ZERO salary back we have 24 million in useable cap, all accounts are it will take a minimum of 25 million year one to sign those guys you mentioned.
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If we unload CJ/BI/ Nance then we have about 96mil in free space.
Not even remotely realistic to salary dump everyone without sending out every pick we have.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:13 pm to jamal
We don't have to give up Daniel's. I'd rather have Daniel's then Okongwu any for how they can be maximized.
Okongwu might not be the solution at center and still doesn't move the needle.
At that point you just swap BI and Murray.
The Hawks (one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA) clearly want no one other than Herb/ Dyson (2 of the best defenders in the league). But that's too damn bad for them. They have 0 leverage. Murray/ Trae can't work and keeping them doesn't fix their defensive issues at all.
Its just positioning.
If we send Dyson with that trade then Capella and Nance should be added.
Hawks: Dyson/ BI/ Nance
Pels: Capella/ Okongwu/ Murray
Otherwise they can have a 1st instead of Dyson or hopefully wouldn't get him.
Okongwu might not be the solution at center and still doesn't move the needle.
At that point you just swap BI and Murray.
The Hawks (one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA) clearly want no one other than Herb/ Dyson (2 of the best defenders in the league). But that's too damn bad for them. They have 0 leverage. Murray/ Trae can't work and keeping them doesn't fix their defensive issues at all.
Its just positioning.
If we send Dyson with that trade then Capella and Nance should be added.
Hawks: Dyson/ BI/ Nance
Pels: Capella/ Okongwu/ Murray
Otherwise they can have a 1st instead of Dyson or hopefully wouldn't get him.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:15 pm to Dantheman504
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Otherwise they can have a 1st instead of Dyson or hopefully wouldn't get him.
Just curious what other first would you give up? Protections?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:16 pm to Soggymoss
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Unless I’m mistaken Portis has pretty good value, I’m sure there’s quite a few teams around that would give up a 1st+ for him coming off a 13.8/7.4 season shooting 40% from 3.
The Dunc’d on guys talked about his value a month ago and I think they would disagree. The Bucks system and players have been hiding some of his deficiencies. The Bucks have been worse with him on the floor the last two years, he posted a negative BPM last year, and has posted a negative DBPM every year in the league.
Still, he shoots too well and doesn’t get paid enough to think he has a negative value, but I dont think you could use Portis to get any real asset.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:19 pm to Soggymoss
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Not even remotely realistic to salary dump everyone without sending out every pick we have
Bruh we could send ALL 3 of BI/ Nance/ CJ to Philly right now and make that happen lololol.
We could also send to Spurs, Magic, Pistons....
We 100% "could".
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If we trade BI and take ZERO salary back we have 24 million in useable cap
Are you including the money we have in current free agent like Val?
Are you subtracting the $30mil of players that won't be on our roster next year and are current cap holds?
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:25 pm to Dantheman504
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Are you including the money we have in current free agent like Val? Are you subtracting the $30mil of players that won't be on our roster next year and are current cap holds?
Yes
Maybe try to learn the NBA CBA and salary cap and how it works.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:31 pm to Soggymoss
quote:Huh, that trade appears to just be making a traded just to say you made a trade. Pass
There’s rumblings Bucks will look to move Brook Lopez.
I’ve thought of them as a dark horse trade candidate for BI, they always seem to come out of nowhere.
Lopez and 23 to Cavs, BI to Bucks, Portis and Allen to Pels?
Pacers and Raptors are other dark horses for me
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:32 pm to Soggymoss
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Maybe try to learn the NBA CBA and salary cap and how it works.
Lol thanks buddy.
96mil to the 1st Apron*
If we trade CJ/ BI/ Nance we would have $65mil of cap space
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:36 pm to htran90
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Neither guys move off ball. You can fix both by finding a pg though.
That's what i want to see as opposed to trading BI for Jarrett Allen or anyone else that isn't a premier scorer to replace him.
BI was an elite scorer this past year coming off screens. I don't remember what it was but he was in the 85th or 90th percentile in that category in the league.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:38 pm to Dantheman504
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We don't have to give up Daniel's. I'd rather have Daniel's then Okongwu any for how they can be maximized. Okongwu might not be the solution at center and still doesn't move the needle. At that point you just swap BI and Murray.
Exactly what I’m thinking. I much rather hang on to DD than get Okingwu. I could see Griff making that trade tho figuring he’s getting another young player with potential back at the center spot and Murray being an older version of DD with less defense but better shooting and scoring.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:38 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Apron is not the cap. For instance, the 76ers do not have enough cap space to take all 3. They will have a cap hold on Maxey and holds for the minimum roster spots. Cap space is not the apron.
Lol thanks buddy.
96mil to the 1st Apron*
If we trade CJ/ BI/ Nance we would have $65mil of cap space
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:39 pm to Dantheman504
stop talking about getting cap space. We aren't attracting any FA's to play here. Us creating cap space for next year woudl be beyond stupid.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:45 pm to TeddyPadillac
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stop talking about getting cap space. We aren't attracting any FA's to play here. Us creating cap space for next year woudl be beyond stupid.
Yeah…cap space does us no good unless we take the Thunder route and rebuild. Blow the team up, take on bad contracts with our cap space w/picks attached, and draft well.
We will not attract big name free agents here, and free agency isn’t actually a thing in the NBA anyway.
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