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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:10 pm to Pels_Yaz
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:10 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:Could be, but remember Herb did not play all that well on both ends before last season. Dyson may never develop an offensive game, but he is only 21. Herb came around at 24.
Or they value players who play well on both ends as well. Why they love Herb.
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:11 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Yes we been great on defense the last two years. How has that translated to actual success in playoff seeding or the playoffs? Dyson is basically unplayable in the playoffs currently.
You guys better not get stuck on Dyson again. We have someone dropping alleged insider knowledge on us.
CajunMD, were there any other options under consideration, or is Murray the only deal they like?
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:11 pm to Pels_Yaz
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needs a good bit of development minutes especially on offense and with Willie- I honestly don’t think the Pels will give that to him.
He played a lot for us before his injury. 22mpg is plenty.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:20 pm to whatiknowsofar
And with two wings possibly out of the picture, I can see his minutes go up to 25 a game and up to 28 if he shoots it well.
They're going give him every opportunity and will continue to do so. Willie loves him and will find ways to get him on the floor.
They're going give him every opportunity and will continue to do so. Willie loves him and will find ways to get him on the floor.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:20 pm to whatiknowsofar
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He played a lot for us before his injury. 22mpg is plenty
And statistically with those minutes he shot worse from 3 and the free throw line and was cut from the playoff rotation. To his credit he put up better defensive stats. We can nitpick and say last “10 games” he shot better but reality is his offense didn’t improve. Again, I hope it does but lets see.
I won’t continue the Dyson discussion because it will go on for hours but again hope Dyson improves on offense but with Willie as head coach and now Vinson gone it wont be easy.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:25 pm to Pels_Yaz
Yeah we don't have to continue. Your initial point was misguided by saying the league doesn't value Dyson even though it was one team saying they didn't care for Dyson and you went to another place with it.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:27 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Your initial point was misguided by saying the league doesn't value Dyson even though it was one team saying they didn't care for Dyson and you went to another place with it.
You continued on pointing out Dyson’s stats to start a Dyson discussion but yes we wont continue.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:34 pm to CajunMD
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Trae hasn't even been discussed (with us). Only way he gets traded is if his camp requests out, which is looking like it will eventually happen. It would take at least 4-5 firsts/swaps, an all star type player - not expiring, and at least two high potential players (think of it as a Dyson and Murphy).
If this is true
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:38 pm to Pels_Yaz
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You continued on pointing out Dyson’s stats to start a Dyson discussion but yes we wont continue.
Only because you used the ridiculous playoff success argument to devalue our team defense ranking. But yes we won't continue.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
I wonder if Hawks brass are as delusional as their fans. Was on their message boards to see if anyone had inside info and they believe they are getting BI for a trade geared around Capela. Like just Capela and minor pieces.
One fan said he was a bit more realistic and threw out a Capela Hunter Bogi trade for Bi Hawkins and our first lol.
One fan said he was a bit more realistic and threw out a Capela Hunter Bogi trade for Bi Hawkins and our first lol.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:51 pm to Townedrunkard
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I wonder if Hawks brass are as delusional as their fans.
I find that strange. Are they wanting to keep Murray and Trae together? They’ve done nothing since being paired together and seems like they have chemistry issues as well.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:51 pm to TigerinATL
That’s tricky because there are thousands of things being talked about every minute. Murray was almost had at the deadline..like really close. The Pelicans leaked that Hawks wanted Herb. The basic framework was set in place. But some people I talked to said that Herb wasn’t even in the initial deal. Murphy would have been the guy they wanted, not herb. Murphy’s name is never mentioned in rumors. There’s a reason for that. He is almost on the untouchable tier to Griff. Hawks would have paid him a fair amount of money, and seeing his name in rumors only drives the bidding up. Last year the Pelicans knew they would lose one or the other. At one point Murphy was more gettable. Not anymore for obvious reasons. Hawks and Pelicans have always had a great relationship. So any leak you see between them, is usually pretty accurate. So the compromise was Herb which was also shot down.
Pelicans have always liked Garland. Inquired pretty heavily. Garland and Allen were never a potential pair to be traded. Ever. Garland would be much easier to get than Allen. But they value Murray’s calm and relaxed demeanor in a similar way they do to BI and prefer him over Garland.
They have always liked Mitchell Robinson. It’s been discussed in the past and recently. Pelicans would be a third team but would have to send out picks.
They are obsessed with J Allen in a similar way with Murray.
Claxton to pelicans was mentioned in a 3 team trade with the 76ers. Didn’t go anywhere. That’s when the rumors about Tobias came out.
I would say the two closest negotiation wise is Murray and Garland.
Kessler isn’t as easy to get. I see his name often. Until they resign Lauri to a long term deal, Idt he’s getting traded. Once they lock Lauri down, he’s gettable.
Pelicans have always liked Garland. Inquired pretty heavily. Garland and Allen were never a potential pair to be traded. Ever. Garland would be much easier to get than Allen. But they value Murray’s calm and relaxed demeanor in a similar way they do to BI and prefer him over Garland.
They have always liked Mitchell Robinson. It’s been discussed in the past and recently. Pelicans would be a third team but would have to send out picks.
They are obsessed with J Allen in a similar way with Murray.
Claxton to pelicans was mentioned in a 3 team trade with the 76ers. Didn’t go anywhere. That’s when the rumors about Tobias came out.
I would say the two closest negotiation wise is Murray and Garland.
Kessler isn’t as easy to get. I see his name often. Until they resign Lauri to a long term deal, Idt he’s getting traded. Once they lock Lauri down, he’s gettable.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:53 pm to Pels_Yaz
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He played a lot for us before his injury. 22mpg is plenty
And statistically with those minutes he shot worse from 3 and the free throw line and was cut from the playoff rotation. To his credit he put up better defensive stats. We can nitpick and say last “10 games” he shot better but reality is his offense didn’t improve. Again, I hope it does but lets
Or he just needs more minutes in a stable system/ role. He's also pkayed just about every position.
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19 games > 25 minutes played: Dyson avg
30 min/ 8.4 pts/ 6 ast/ 5.5 reb/ 1.6 stl
64 FGM/ 137 FGA: 46.7 FG%
Kinda destroys the whole "no offense" argument.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:57 pm to CajunMD
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Last year the Pelicans knew they would lose one or the other. At one point Murphy was more gettable. Not anymore.
Wait to be clear are you saying at deadline they were willing to trade Trey because they couldn’t afford both BI and Trey? But after the season Trey is untouchable now?
If thats the case, kind of happy BI played like shite in the playoffs- in the end we’re keeping the right player.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:58 pm to Pels_Yaz
No, Murphy was shot down. And Pelicans didn't want his name mentioned anywhere.
This time last year, Murphy was gettable for the perfect fit. And they were even keel on keeping BI. They thought he would take a slight discount. Langdon would have traded BI last year. Griff didn't want to.
This time last year, Murphy was gettable for the perfect fit. And they were even keel on keeping BI. They thought he would take a slight discount. Langdon would have traded BI last year. Griff didn't want to.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:58 pm to Pels_Yaz
No way Griffin even thought about trading Murphy to ATL.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:02 pm to Townedrunkard
Holy shite
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:03 pm to CajunMD
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Langdon would have traded BI last year. Griff didn't want to.
Why it worries me even more that Langdon is gone. Also can basically rule out any BI to Detroit trades.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:07 pm to Pels_Yaz
I honestly believe that 100%. Just look at Griffin’s view on BI before he took over and made the AD trade.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:12 pm to jamal
quote:
I honestly believe that 100%. Just look at Griffin’s view on BI before he took over and made the AD trade.
It must be killing Griffin to trade him now. While Langdon is probably like I told you so.
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