CajunMD

The protection of the pick went away once it was traded back to the Pacers. The pick is no longer protected.

1. Do you think the Pelicans wanted to just trade Dyson? Do you think Murray could have been had for anything less? If you think so, you’re out of your mind. You think everything on a message board, Twitter, internet is true? It’s for entertainment. We got Murray for peanuts. It’s common sense that we would have to include a young player as a filler. The NBA would probably veto the trade if not as it would be suspicious. Hawks wanted a defensive guard or wing. Herb obviously was not to be had. So if you were the Hawks, would you prefer Dyson (who is younger than most) or Hawkins? Ya. Pelicans did not want to include Dyson. Idt anyone in the office or any fan did.. but guess what? A trade, especially for a former all star goes two ways. Pelicans loved Dyson. But we have way too many guards at his position. We got value for him. The Hawks pulled the trigger bc that was our best offer. As I mentioned, the firsts we have beyond this year is considered our war chest. Tons of picks plus some youngsters will get you a STAR, Dyson Daniels with a few picks will not. Pelicans wanted Murray. And they did what they had to do to get him.

Idt you understand it in other teams eyes. Teams value picks. Why do you think teams are trading picks out the arse for borderline all stars? That’s the current price, and teams want that. Pelicans value their picks. Every team does.

2. As far as Trae is concerned. It doesn’t even matter anymore. But what I will say, is that regardless of the Yahoo articles you may have read about Trae not fetching much value. That is true. That doesn’t mean that the Hawks are going to trade him for peanuts. You do realize that teams leak things like this to lower the asking price right? Was Trae traded yet? No. Do you know what he will be or has be traded for? No. Imagine reports coming out saying Zion isn’t worth what people think he is…you honestly think as the manager of the organization you would just trade him for 2-3 picks when he still has years on his contract left?

The hawks are asking for a lot. ALOT. But teams don’t agree with their evaluation. Hence why he has not been traded.. it doesn’t mean that he can’t be traded for peanuts, but I can tell you right now he won’t. The asking price for Trae is absurd…and yes. I wanted Trae more than anyone. But I can tell you what I mentioned about Trae is fact. Whether you believe it or not is your opinion and I respect it. He hasn’t been traded yet, so none of us can defend our response. But what I don’t agree with is starting a petty thread calling someone out for something that has not even been done yet.. regardless of what you read or not.

You think I just wake up and get secret info. and just go on the internet? I never spoke to Griff. I have no idea if it will happen or not. But when you are involved with members of the organization and you have free time in your field, wouldn't you like to ask questions and pick peoples brains who actually have some intel?

Not exactly sure. But they almost had Murray at the deadline but didn’t wanna let Reaves go. Yes. Reaves. And Lebron and his peeps kept pushing for Murray.

No.
Hawks want to rid of Murray first. Then worry about Trae. Unless a massive offer comes through.

1. Ball is in the Hawks court. If you’re waiting on a Pelicans trade with them, it’s because of the Hawks. Neither team is budging on their offers. And neither team is in any rush to make a deal. Hawks will be trading Murray. Soon. Patience. Lakers and Pelicans are front runners.
2. Hawks literally do not want Ingram. Gotta find a third team. In comes Philly.
3. If Lakers should pass on Edey and draft Missi, I would expect Pels to make a few calls to try and get ahead of Toronto. .Edey and Collier are top two. But it always depends on who falls. Last resort is Missi, but I think he goes earlier.
4. Pels have engaged with Kings, Hawks, and Knicks the most over the past 24h.
5. If Griff gets desperate, he will trade Ingram to Philly and either Kings, Nets, or Knicks will be involved. Looking like the most likely scenario.

That’s what it would take for them to say yes right now in this moment. They aren’t in a rush. You basically have to nuke them to stop the trade exploring.

I think if Trae says that he wants to play with Z and Z pressures the FO, Griff pulls the trigger.

Y’all see why I said 4-5 picks.. griff isn’t doing that.

You’re gonna see stuff like this come out about multiple players.

The key is to getting him is
1. If Trae demands a trade
2. Less suitors due to his contract
3. Griff feels his lack of defense can be made up in different ways
4. If Zion goes to Griff and if Trae’s agent tells Griff he wants to be there to play with Zion, you do WHATEVER it takes.
5. Most importantly, cost

The fans like us want Trae. I can care less about defense. Give me Trae Young on a billboard.

IF every one of those things listed line up, Griff has no other option. You do the trade. Whatever it costs (minus herb and Murphy).

Usually when chatter happens about trades the agents leak things about obvious teams.

I think Trae would be thrilled here. But I also see him fitting perfectly with the Spurs as one of their cornerstones.

Expect more of this to come out in the next 24h. Expect Griff to listen. But for Trae to come here, all five things need to align.

If Herb has to be attached to ANY Murray or Trae deal, you go with Trae. Could be posturing on Hawks to getting what they want. They hold all the cards. They also don’t have to do a single trade if it doesn’t benefit them.

The Pels really like Capella. And he will cost you far less in assets compared to others.

For what the asking prices are right now, I would say Robinson is most budget friendly. The rest would have to be three team trades where we give up a ton. You only do that for a Mobley type on a good contract. Pelicans don't need an allstar stud at center. Although most of us prefer a Center like AD who can spread the floor and shoot 3's when open, the FO feels the opposite. It's hard to find exactly what you want. And the big athletic rebounder is much more attainable than the other.