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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:31 pm to Balsamic_duck
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:31 pm to Balsamic_duck
There is literally two proposed trades. Not sure the specifics. Dyson has been mentioned, but the Hawks don't care for him. But he won't be a holding point and may be the best option they can get. If Dyson goes, I would expect him to be sent to a third team with picks going to Atlanta. The issue is Dyson isn't getting traded for Capela..in Griff's eyes, if you think of it like that. It's going to take more. Pelicans admire Dyson.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 3:34 pm
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:32 pm to CajunMD
quote:capela
Capella
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:37 pm to CajunMD
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The issue is Dyson isn't getting traded for Capela
That’s a relief, I would hate to catch an assault charge and have to get my foot medically removed from Griffins arse if he were dumb enough to do that.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:41 pm to CajunMD
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Dyson has been mentioned, but the Hawks don't care for him. But he won't be a holding point and may be the best option they can get.
This kind of shows that this organization and the fanbase value Dyson a lot more than the rest of the league does.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:50 pm to Pels_Yaz
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value Dyson a lot more than the rest of the league does.
The Hawks speak for the whole league?
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:50 pm to Pels_Yaz
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This kind of shows that this organization and the fanbase value Dyson a lot more than the rest of the league does.
The rest of the league likely hasn't seen enough to comprehend how versatile he is defensively. There are no highlight reels for guards effectively defending post-ups by Gobert because it's not sexy, but I've seen it numerous times.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:51 pm to Jester
cj eats up too many minutes on our team.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:51 pm to CajunMD
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Pelicans admire Dyson.
As they should. He's one of best defenders in the league and only 21
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:54 pm to whatiknowsofar
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The Hawks speak for the whole league?
When one of the worst defensive teams in the league trying to improve on defense doesn’t care for him- that should tell you something.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:55 pm to Pels_Yaz
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that should tell you something.
One teams opinion doesn't tell me the whole league's opinion.
The Pels value Dyson. They're one of the best defensive teams in the league. That should tell you something too
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:56 pm to Jester
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The rest of the league likely hasn't seen enough to comprehend how versatile he is defensively. There are no highlight reels for guards effectively defending post-ups by Gobert because it's not sexy, but I've seen it numerous times.
Yeah you’re right the rest of the league doesn’t analyze NBA defensive players like Dyson like you do. That must be it.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:56 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:It may tell you that they do not know defensive players when they see them. Maybe that is why they are so bad on defense.
When one of the worst defensive teams in the league trying to improve on defense doesn’t care for him- that should tell you something.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:57 pm to CajunMD
quote:Wow, seems like a lot to add just to get Okongwu. While I would prefer him, I do not think he is worth adding 2 1sts to get.
Not exactly sure. They value him a lot. If Clingan gets taken, I think an extra future first with minimal protection along with this years first.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:58 pm to whatiknowsofar
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The Pels value Dyson. They're one of the best defensive teams in the league. That should tell you something too
Yes we been great on defense the last two years. How has that translated to actual success in playoff seeding or the playoffs? Dyson is basically unplayable in the playoffs currently.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:59 pm to NOSHAU
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It may tell you that they do not know defensive players when they see them. Maybe that is why they are so bad on defense.
Or they value players who play well on both ends as well. Why they love Herb.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:02 pm to NOSHAU
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Wow, seems like a lot to add just to get Okongwu. While I would prefer him, I do not think he is worth adding 2 1sts to get.
Agreed. I would just take Capela and draft a young center at 21.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:02 pm to Pels_Yaz
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How has that translated to actual success in playoff seeding or the playoffs?
A fair metric to use considering Zion played 29 games two seasons ago and got hurt right before this years playoffs. Dyson at 21 years old should be held accountable for this! The defensive rating means nothing! Nevermind two of the highest rated defensive teams just played in the Finals against one another.
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Dyson is basically unplayable in the playoffs currently.
He shot 40% from 3 the last 10 games zion played in. Just like Trey, cj, etc, Zion makes Dyson better. And Dyson will get better. You just need to be patient.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:06 pm to NOSHAU
Depends what we get back from a third team if so.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:08 pm to whatiknowsofar
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He shot 40% from 3 the last 10 games zion played in. Just like Trey, cj, etc, Zion makes Dyson better. And Dyson will get better. You just need to be patient.
I like Dyson and agree he has potential. I just don’t hold his value as high as some do on this board. I think Dyson needs a good bit of development minutes especially on offense and with Willie- I honestly don’t think the Pels will give that to him.
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