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re: mavs in serious talks for Rondo

Posted on 12/17/14 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 11:40 pm to
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The NBA really does need to take a serious look at conference realignment.


It wouldn't surprise me for this to get talked about.

Guys like cuban are realizing it.

This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 11:41 pm
Posted by LSUtoTulaneLaw
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
397 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 11:43 pm to
It's simply not fair or economically efficient. The teams in the East are floundering and attendance is down league wide. It makes a ton more sense to have 16 competitive teams spread equally throughout the country. Nobody goes to Hawks games and they're like 17-7 because they play garbage night in and night out. Maybe blow up the conferences all together, cut it to 70ish games and have 2-4 extra teams in the playoffs? Idk but something has to change.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 11:52 pm to
The entire perception of the Pelicans' franchise would be different right now if they were in the East competing for a 4,5 seed as opposed to fighting for an 8 seed in the west.
As a of now every 20-something nba blogger thinks they're smarter than what they believe are the knuckle-dragging morons in our organization.

Im looking at the top 7 teams in the west + OKC, right now, and there's NOT ONE eastern conference team I'd pick in a 7 game series vs any top 8 seed in the west.

Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:03 am to
Yep and we'd likely have 14-15 wins and be talked about as an up an coming team with a star in contrast to a team that's fighting for its life.

Hell even the Pels+Memphis to the East makes that conference much stronger.

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 1:02 am to
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It wouldn't surprise me for this to get talked about.

Guys like cuban are realizing it.



The West won't be dominant forever, realigning the league just because there has been a talent discrepancy in conferences for the last 5 or so years would be terribly shortsighted.

Only way realignment happens is if a team from the east moves to Seattle/Vegas or the NBA expands to those markets, forcing New Orleans or Memphis to move back to the East to balance things out.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 1:03 am
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 1:30 am to
so the trade is Brandan Wright and a 1st for Rondo???

That is absolutely insane. So the Mavericks will get arguably the best passing/defense PG in the league for essentially nothing? A late 20's pick and a 27 year old backup center? Are the Celtics completely retarded?

There is no way this is legit. I'm having a hard time believing that/
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 1:32 am
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 1:40 am to
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The West won't be dominant forever, realigning the league just because there has been a talent discrepancy in conferences for the last 5 or so years would be terribly shortsighted.



It hasn't just been 5 or so years, which is the problem. It has been more like 15 years.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 1:41 am to
I saw a bunch of the NBA people I follow on twitter sort of scoff at this trade, so we will see how real it actually is. They are probably leaking it as leverage on other teams.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 6:39 am to
Yep. It doesn't make much sense for the Mavs. Perhaps the Rockets, but even there I don't see that much of a reason to do it other than Rondo was really really good 3 years ago. Rondo isn't what he used to be.

If Wright and a late 1st is a baseline offer, Ainge outsmarted himself and waited too long to trade him.
Posted by whoknows1390
nola
Member since Jul 2014
1672 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:17 am to
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If Wright and a late 1st is a baseline offer, Ainge outsmarted himself and waited too long to trade him.


I think this is the case. They had to know Rondo wouldn't be on board for a full rebuild. He could've got a much better package for Rondo last year.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:45 am to
This would make the Mavs worst IMO. Wright is very valuable for the Mavs and Rondo is not. They do not need an upgrade on offense or PG play(if they would even get one. Rondo has been trash). A downgrade on the bench would hurt though.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:23 am to
quote:

The West won't be dominant forever, realigning the league just because there has been a talent discrepancy in conferences for the last 5 or so years would be terribly shortsighted.


why the need for conferences at all?
seed the best 16 regardless of conference, and re-do the schedule so that teams play each other more equally (ie: more east games for west teams & vice versa)
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115509 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:29 am to
The reason for the conferences right now is strictly because of TV in the Playoffs.

They don't want the Nets playing Portland in the first round, because the TV numbers at 10 or 11 at night in the NY market would be way way down when playing on the West Coast. Just an example.
Posted by LSUtoTulaneLaw
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
397 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 1:35 pm to
Mavs just followed Rajon Rondo on Twitter.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49489 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 1:40 pm to
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I saw a bunch of the NBA people I follow on twitter sort of scoff at this trade


Haralbob and Zach Lowe, who each obviously watch a ton of basketball, are saying that Rondo hasn't been a very good defender in years. Lowe thinks it may be due to effort, but this could really backfire on Dallas if it's age related.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:46 pm to
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The reason for the conferences right now is strictly because of TV in the Playoffs.

They don't want the Nets playing Portland in the first round, because the TV numbers at 10 or 11 at night in the NY market would be way way down when playing on the West Coast. Just an example.


There's a 1000 other reasons that are positive for them other than "kids will have to stay up later". Let's hope Silver has the nuts to make the tough call here.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61444 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:48 pm to
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There's a 1000 other reasons that are positive for them other than "kids will have to stay up later".


The league just inked a new TV deal that has them practically printing money. Your 1000 other reasons are completely irrelevant if they conflict with pleasing the league's new top partner, national TV.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115509 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:55 pm to
Exactly.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38658 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:02 pm to
if dallas gets rondo this is terrible news for the pels playoff chances. dallas looks to be the only team ahead of them that has a weakness

GSW
MEM
LAC
POR
HOU
SAS
OKC

all playoff locks
DAL is currently 5.5 games ahead of the pels

this team must get thru december at 500 and then rip off a bunch of wins in jan/feb to even be in the mix
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38658 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 9m9 minutes ago In Rondo talks, Boston and Dallas discussing package including Brandan Wright, Jae Crowder and a first-round pick, sources tell Yahoo.
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