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re: KiraPosted by Dantheman504 
on 1/30/23 at 5:42 pm to bengalmd
on 1/30/23 at 5:42 pm to bengalmdNo shite. Have an upvote
This post was edited on 1/30 at 5:43 pm
re: KiraPosted by Pistol44 on 1/30/23 at 5:48 pm to Dinky Mulberry
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Just seems to me...with Zion, BI and CJ...we don't really need a true PG as much as most other teams do
You’re right, but that’s not what Pels would ask Kira to do. He would excel in pushing pace for the transition game and putting pressure in the paint to open up the floor. You are also right in that its secondary to fixing the slow frontcourt.
re: KiraPosted by Dinky Mulberry on 1/30/23 at 5:58 pm to Pistol44
on 1/30/23 at 5:58 pm to Pistol44quote:
You’re right, but that’s not what Pels would ask Kira to do. He would excel in pushing pace for the transition game and putting pressure in the paint to open up the floor. You are also right in that its secondary to fixing the slow frontcourt.
I firmly believe Kira would be the best to keep if I had to choose between Kira/Jose/DG. If you wanna push tempo at times (& I think we should)...then Kira is your man.
re: KiraPosted by Jester on 1/30/23 at 6:36 pm to tehchampion140
on 1/30/23 at 6:36 pm to tehchampion140quote:
tehchampion140
Who da fook is dis guy?
re: KiraPosted by tehchampion140 on 1/30/23 at 8:28 pm to Jester
on 1/30/23 at 8:28 pm to Jesterquote:
Who da fook is dis guy?
Zion brought me back from the dead.
re: KiraPosted by LSUgrad88 
on 1/30/23 at 8:46 pm to TeddyPadillac
on 1/30/23 at 8:46 pm to TeddyPadillacquote:
One thing DG provides as a role player is off the ball movement and keeping his defender close to him most of the time b/c he gets his shot off quickly. Even when DG isn't shooting great from 3, he's still commanding the defenses attention when he's on the court, and that is an extremely important trait to have if you're going to play for this team.
I’m sorry, while I agree with what you said, I don’t believe you’re allowed to say anything positive about Graham on this site. As far as I can tell he’s nearly solely responsible for our current losing streak.
re: KiraPosted by ghost2most 
on 1/31/23 at 8:37 am to LSUgrad88
on 1/31/23 at 8:37 am to LSUgrad88My issue with Graham is that he just misses too much. I could live with his d since he hustles but the dude just is not a good enough shooter. 34 percent for a specialist sucks.
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re: KiraPosted by htran90 
on 1/31/23 at 8:44 am to ghost2most
on 1/31/23 at 8:44 am to ghost2mostquote:
My issue with Graham is that he just misses too much. I could live with his d since he hustles but the dude just is not a good enough shooter. 34 percent for a specialist sucks.
Especially when they're wide open 3's too.
What Graham brings, we need to this team. The issue is where the hell is the 38-39% 3PT shooter? We're talking that's often times the difference between a win/loss in some of these games.
re: KiraPosted by Balsamic_duck on 1/31/23 at 9:31 am to htran90
Kira is probably not the answer to our problems but I sure as hell would like to play him and find out than watch anymore of graham
re: KiraPosted by Balsamic_duck on 1/31/23 at 9:33 am to htran90
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Especially when they're wide open 3's too.
What Graham brings, we need to this team. The issue is where the hell is the 38-39% 3PT shooter? We're talking that's often times the difference between a win/loss in some of these games.
Its crazy, you watch him in charlotte and he's the same player he is here just his shot is falling more. Like he's exactly what we need if he could hit a damn shot
re: KiraPosted by TeddyPadillac on 1/31/23 at 10:43 am to ghost2most
on 1/31/23 at 10:43 am to ghost2mostquote:
My issue with Graham is that he just misses too much. I could live with his d since he hustles but the dude just is not a good enough shooter. 34 percent for a specialist sucks.
I get what you're saying, but despite his shooting %, he is still demanding attention from his defender and pulling him away from the lane for the most part, and that role is very helpful WHEN ZION IS PLAYING.
Mirotic was 35% in 3 years for us, yet someone was in his jock strap at all times.
and you have to remember it's not like he's a pivotal player on the team. When everyone is healthy he's playign 10 minutes a game if at all, and that can vary depending on if he's hot or not.
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Especially when they're wide open 3's too.
Well he's shooting 46% on wide open 3's this year. Only 34% of his shots are wide open. You can look at that and say well he needs to take more wide open shots, or you can say well maybe his defenders simply aren't leaving him wide arse open too often. DG isn't someone who just sits in the corner and waits for a pass. He's running around screens all the time on offense, and that causes confusion for the defense, and all of this is a positive WHEN ZION PLAYS.
And i'll say it again, i have no problem trading DG, but we have to get back a guy that can provide that type of spacing either right now or in the offseason. Doug McDermott.
DG/Jax/Kira to Spurs/Pistons, McDermott and Burks to Pels. Don't even need to trade a 1st for that to happen, although i'd be fine with it if they gave us back one of their 2nds this year.
re: KiraPosted by ghost2most on 1/31/23 at 10:48 am to TeddyPadillac
on 1/31/23 at 10:48 am to TeddyPadillacI'd be curious to see the wide open stats of other guys that perform a similar role.
Beasley, Kennard, Lee, Niang, Struss, Allen, Harris, etc.
Beasley, Kennard, Lee, Niang, Struss, Allen, Harris, etc.
re: KiraPosted by shel311 on 1/31/23 at 10:52 am to TeddyPadillac
on 1/31/23 at 10:52 am to TeddyPadillacquote:While true, we gave up a 1st rounder for him, so that is part of what makes it a disappointment.
and you have to remember it's not like he's a pivotal player on the team. When everyone is healthy he's playign 10 minutes a game if at all, and that can vary depending on if he's hot or not.
Based on the acquisition cost, there's an expectation for him to produce but he hasn't done so on the level we expected.
re: KiraPosted by TeddyPadillac on 1/31/23 at 11:57 am to shel311
on 1/31/23 at 11:57 am to shel311quote:
While true, we gave up a 1st rounder for him, so that is part of what makes it a disappointment.
which was incredibly stupid, and i was very adamant about how stupid that was when it happened.
i'm over it now. It's done and gone, move on. No point in looking back and saying what if. Move forward towards winning a championship.
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