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Posted on 1/30/23 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 5:42 pm to
No shite. Have an upvote
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
1850 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 5:48 pm to
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Just seems to me...with Zion, BI and CJ...we don't really need a true PG as much as most other teams do


You’re right, but that’s not what Pels would ask Kira to do. He would excel in pushing pace for the transition game and putting pressure in the paint to open up the floor. You are also right in that its secondary to fixing the slow frontcourt.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
1846 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 5:58 pm to
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You’re right, but that’s not what Pels would ask Kira to do. He would excel in pushing pace for the transition game and putting pressure in the paint to open up the floor. You are also right in that its secondary to fixing the slow frontcourt.


I firmly believe Kira would be the best to keep if I had to choose between Kira/Jose/DG. If you wanna push tempo at times (& I think we should)...then Kira is your man.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34326 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 6:36 pm to
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tehchampion140


Who da fook is dis guy?
Posted by kpop1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18851 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 8:28 pm to
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Who da fook is dis guy?


Zion brought me back from the dead.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6767 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 8:46 pm to
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One thing DG provides as a role player is off the ball movement and keeping his defender close to him most of the time b/c he gets his shot off quickly. Even when DG isn't shooting great from 3, he's still commanding the defenses attention when he's on the court, and that is an extremely important trait to have if you're going to play for this team.


I’m sorry, while I agree with what you said, I don’t believe you’re allowed to say anything positive about Graham on this site. As far as I can tell he’s nearly solely responsible for our current losing streak.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6602 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:37 am to
My issue with Graham is that he just misses too much. I could live with his d since he hustles but the dude just is not a good enough shooter. 34 percent for a specialist sucks.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30112 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:44 am to
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My issue with Graham is that he just misses too much. I could live with his d since he hustles but the dude just is not a good enough shooter. 34 percent for a specialist sucks.



Especially when they're wide open 3's too.

What Graham brings, we need to this team. The issue is where the hell is the 38-39% 3PT shooter? We're talking that's often times the difference between a win/loss in some of these games.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3151 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:31 am to
Kira is probably not the answer to our problems but I sure as hell would like to play him and find out than watch anymore of graham
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3151 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:33 am to
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Especially when they're wide open 3's too.

What Graham brings, we need to this team. The issue is where the hell is the 38-39% 3PT shooter? We're talking that's often times the difference between a win/loss in some of these games.



Its crazy, you watch him in charlotte and he's the same player he is here just his shot is falling more. Like he's exactly what we need if he could hit a damn shot
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25631 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:43 am to
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My issue with Graham is that he just misses too much. I could live with his d since he hustles but the dude just is not a good enough shooter. 34 percent for a specialist sucks.



I get what you're saying, but despite his shooting %, he is still demanding attention from his defender and pulling him away from the lane for the most part, and that role is very helpful WHEN ZION IS PLAYING.
Mirotic was 35% in 3 years for us, yet someone was in his jock strap at all times.

and you have to remember it's not like he's a pivotal player on the team. When everyone is healthy he's playign 10 minutes a game if at all, and that can vary depending on if he's hot or not.

quote:

Especially when they're wide open 3's too.


Well he's shooting 46% on wide open 3's this year. Only 34% of his shots are wide open. You can look at that and say well he needs to take more wide open shots, or you can say well maybe his defenders simply aren't leaving him wide arse open too often. DG isn't someone who just sits in the corner and waits for a pass. He's running around screens all the time on offense, and that causes confusion for the defense, and all of this is a positive WHEN ZION PLAYS.



And i'll say it again, i have no problem trading DG, but we have to get back a guy that can provide that type of spacing either right now or in the offseason. Doug McDermott.

DG/Jax/Kira to Spurs/Pistons, McDermott and Burks to Pels. Don't even need to trade a 1st for that to happen, although i'd be fine with it if they gave us back one of their 2nds this year.

Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6602 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:48 am to
I'd be curious to see the wide open stats of other guys that perform a similar role.

Beasley, Kennard, Lee, Niang, Struss, Allen, Harris, etc.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110896 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:52 am to
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and you have to remember it's not like he's a pivotal player on the team. When everyone is healthy he's playign 10 minutes a game if at all, and that can vary depending on if he's hot or not.

While true, we gave up a 1st rounder for him, so that is part of what makes it a disappointment.

Based on the acquisition cost, there's an expectation for him to produce but he hasn't done so on the level we expected.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25631 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:57 am to
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While true, we gave up a 1st rounder for him, so that is part of what makes it a disappointment.



which was incredibly stupid, and i was very adamant about how stupid that was when it happened.

i'm over it now. It's done and gone, move on. No point in looking back and saying what if. Move forward towards winning a championship.
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