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Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:41 am to
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He offers no rim protection and is not a great rebounder. He also has missed a lot of games each season. Why WCJ?


Hes a switchable versatile defender, shoots the 3 well and is on a good contract.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:52 am to
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Have seen WCJ mentioned a few times as a target. Can anyone explain why, other than a reasonable contract? He offers no rim protection and is not a great rebounder. He also has missed a lot of games each season. Why WCJ?

He’s a pretty good defender even if he doesn’t have great counting stats like blocks, his rim protection stats aren’t bad (-4.6% DIFF at the rim), and he shoots 3 pointers. His rebounding stats were fine outside of this season.

His injury history is concerning though.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:53 am to
WCJ/ Mitchell Robinson/ Capella are the (3) centers we can get without giving up a large amount of assets and the teams are willing to let them go.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7771 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:58 am to
I don't love any of those three. Would rather spend assets on Kessler.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Hes a switchable versatile defender, shoots the 3 well and is on a good contract.
He's an ok defender. He is not a very good 3 point shooter. He is a career 33% 3 pt shooter and only shoots 3 a game. He also has averaged about 52 games played a season in his career.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13489 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:03 pm to
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WCJ/ Mitchell Robinson/ Capella are the (3) centers we can get without giving up a large amount of assets and the teams are willing to let them go.
Not sure that is all, but all 3 do have their flaws. At least Robinson and Carter are on cheaper contracts.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7771 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:09 pm to
My preferences.

Kessler




Capela










WCJ
Robinson
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:21 pm to
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He's an ok defender. He is not a very good 3 point shooter. He is a career 33% 3 pt shooter and only shoots 3 a game. He also has averaged about 52 games played a season in his career.


But he would fit Willie’s defensive scheme very well. He shot the 3 at 37% last year at around 3 attempts and has improved shooting the 3 every year- with Zion this could be very important. Contract is really nice- huge in todays market. Agreed health is a big issue and you’re not getting massive rebounding/block numbers from him- to me he’s basically a better Larry Nance- which isn’t a bad thing.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36461 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:50 pm to
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He is not a very good 3 point shooter. He is a career 33% 3 pt shooter and only shoots 3 a game. He also has averaged about 52 games played a season in his career.

He upped his volume these past 3 seasons, he’s shooting 3.5 3 point attempts per game at 35%, that isn’t bad for a center.

His injury history does concern me, if we go after WCJ, we need a good backup.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36461 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:55 pm to
Robinson is almost definitely not available with Hartenstein going to OKC, it was assumed that he may be available when it was thought that Hartenstein was going to stay at the NYK.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73961 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:14 pm to
Kessler would be the #1 target for me at center. There is a huge hole now for rebounding as we’ve lost 42% of our rebounds from last season. Three of the top five in rebounding rate. It’s dire and needs addressing
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33906 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:17 pm to
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would love to get future unprotected picks back from the Kings.

They historically suck. BI is not a needle moving player for them.



I'd love a few unprotected picks from them starting 3 or 4 years from now.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23390 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:24 pm to
Use BI for future assets and assets to get Jarrett Allen.

Trade CJ to clear cap space if needed and open up the roster.

Start

Murray
Jones
Murphy
Williamson
Allen

Try to rebuild your bench.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162126 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:35 pm to
Ballpark on what it would take to get Kessler?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:37 pm to
With the way Ainge operates I would assume 1st round pick plus. Unless it was a strong 1st, I don't think you could just trade a 1st for Kessler, it would have to be something like Hawk + 1st or at least 1st + 2nds if not another 1st.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162126 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:39 pm to
shite I forget its ainge over there now, yeah he probably won't agree to anything that doesn't result in the media declaring him the huge winner
Posted by New City Champ
Member since Jul 2018
636 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:19 pm to
Huerter is 6'7" and historically a top-shelf 3-point shooter. He backs up Trey:

Starters: DeJounte/Herb/Trey/Zion/New 5

2nds: CJ/Hawkins/Huerter/Barnes/Missi

Deep Bench: Jose/JRE/Reeves/Ryan/Seabron

Obviously you are going to mix and match a bit. You won't play the second five as a unit that much.

Huerter & Barnes with CJ & Hawk let you surround Zion with 4 very good 3-point shooters in 5-out, Nascar package...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:21 pm to
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Kessler would be the #1 target for me at center.
Same but if getting WCJ can also come with Isaac, I think i'd prefer that combo over Kessler.
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
5866 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:22 pm to
Huerter and Barnes are BI's contract. There is no "New 5" in that package unless its Kessler.

I'd rather Tyus back in a S&T than Huerter
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29805 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:55 pm to
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I'd rather Tyus back in a S&T than Huerter




ANd what do you plan on doing with Tyus Jones?

You going to give a 6'1" backup PG $15M/yr to take 6'0" Jose's $2M/yr spot as the backup PG?

Sounds ridiculously stupid, no offense.

Huerter is the perfect guy we want comign off the bench and if Hawkins can learn from him and at least equal him, then we have a good problem.
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