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re: Jalen rose sums up our year best

Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130242 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:54 am to
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Just that everyone thought way more highly of Zion’s potential at this point last year then they Do now... sorry you can’t take off your homer shades and realize that




K, neat
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
6525 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:59 am to
If you are trolling I recommend you post 1 time and wait for people to respond instead of 3 dumb posts in a row.

If you are not trolling I am sorry for your limited education and capacity to think/ reason.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13737 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 1:30 pm to
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Yeah start of the league year y’all were healthy with no injuries... I’m sorry you don’t know when the nba season starts. When you drafted Zion was he hurt??


He was hurt starting the season. Missed nearly half of the season. Do your research. I thought you knew everything.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290844 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

guess BI becoming an all star is at best neutral.



I’m talking front office decisions.
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
8917 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

What was the exact package the Celtics were willing to ship?


Most reports stated Brown, Heyward, and picks.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34572 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:12 pm to
If that really was the package, then the Lakers package was better.
I've always liked Tatum over bi

Most say that ainge was never going to let go of Tatum and he probably made the right decision
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1091 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:13 pm to
No he didn’t. League year starts way before the season. He was not hurt when you drafted him
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1091 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:21 pm to
LINK

Zion Williamson hurt during the preseason... WHICH IS AFTER THE LEAGUE YEAR STARTS, you sure you’ve been going to all those games??
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13737 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

LINK

Zion Williamson hurt during the preseason... WHICH IS AFTER THE LEAGUE YEAR STARTS, you sure you’ve been going to all those games??


And your quote - "You went into the season healthy..."

So, clearly you do not know when the season starts. You are either a complete idiot or a ridiculously bad troll who tries to change his story when proven wrong. Go run off to another team's message board and act like you know so much about them.
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1091 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:07 pm to
fricking pelican fans and their semantics. Do you need me to substitute League year instead of season for you. Either way my point should be understood... You guys fell way short of your expectations that were established prior to the year starting (season if you wanna call it that). You are taking a quote and stretching it so far from it's context which without means nothing. My point was you guys did not have an awesome season. You fell short of own expectations, didn't make the playoffs (even though the bubble was essentially made so ya'll could), endured injuries, and your start #1 draft pick ended the season looking hobbled slow and fat. You guys expected to have zion for a full 82 game slate. You did not get that. That is falling short of expectations. That is not an awesome season (point of my first post)
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
6525 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:15 pm to
Does this mean you will leave now if we just all agree to disagree?

We did not fall short of our expectations at all. Most fans who follow the Pels knew we would be fighting for a playoff spot with our roster. Zion got hurt and our team still played well enough to make a run at the 8 seed if we had a full season.

BI made his first all star appearance... Also most improved player...

Zion got injured and was out of shape his (rookie) season and STILL averaged 22 pts and 6 reb in only 24 games.
Posted by xScar
Member since Jun 2017
161 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:22 pm to
How did we fail to meet expectations when one of the biggest factors to those pre season expectations was hurt for half the season then on a minutes restriction?

If you are like any reasonable basketball fan you would realize teams and fans change their expectations based on changing circumstances. Given the circumstances the Pelicans didn’t really disappoint most of us (they sucked early but really found a groove).

Also we didn’t even fall that short. We were expected to be in the conversation for the 8th seed and we were...if anybody expected more than that they were being unrealistic.
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1091 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:32 pm to
Never. But If you want you can stop replying to my posts and arguing semantics. I’ll you give you Brandon Ingram although I’m pretty sure most of the league (including the lakers) saw or felt he was going to improve. Certainly not MIP though so fair. Not sure how you rationalize Zion not being a huge letdown. He’s one of the most hyped recruits ever
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1091 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:39 pm to
If your coach coached the team up to the perceived expectations he would still be your coach. Your own organization made that move. I think it’s quite obvious.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13737 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:00 pm to
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fricking pelican fans and their semantics. Do you need me to substitute League year instead of season for you. Either way my point should be understood... You guys fell way short of your expectations that were established prior to the year starting (season if you wanna call it that). You are taking a quote and stretching it so far from it's context which without means nothing. My point was you guys did not have an awesome season. You fell short of own expectations, didn't make the playoffs (even though the bubble was essentially made so ya'll could), endured injuries, and your start #1 draft pick ended the season looking hobbled slow and fat. You guys expected to have zion for a full 82 game slate. You did not get that. That is falling short of expectations. That is not an awesome season (point of my first post)


No, you are simply changing your comment as you were proven incorrect. No one who follows sports cares how healthy a team is when a league year starts. All that matters is when games actually start, as in the season (as you stated). To change your comment to "league year" is something a 10 year old would do to try and not be proven wrong. Stop the trolling.
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1091 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:17 am to
You either believe my point or you don’t. Expectations from day 1 of the new league year and then additionally the draft were not met. It’s an Internet forum.. I don’t write these comments with much grammatical or verbosity consideration because it’s a forum. My comment was saying the pelicans did not have an awesome year.. which they didn’t and I will continue to stand by. Why would I want to troll a pelicans board? I’m an LSU fan first, an NBA fan second, and have had the opportunity to attend more pelicans games then any team recently. As well as when I was an LSU student. No the Pelicans aren’t my number one team but I cheer, root, and keep up with them as much as any team. There is no troll. 90% of this board has unrealistic expectations and evaluations of the team and I’m trying to bring y’all back to reality. Just because I’m not an irrational optimistic/biased follower doesn’t disqualify me as a fan. If it was up to me the Pelicans would be in the western conference finals next year. I’m here to stay. If you don’t like what I have to say, downvote and move on. The more you reply the more replies I have to respond too
Posted by irvchilichill1
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
720 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:34 pm to
Both sides won in the trade, and thats ok. Different goals in mind when the trade was considered and effectuated. Lakers had immediate championship aspirations bc of Lebron and Pels needed to salvage a deteriorating situation with AD by getting in return-- max value, future assests and potential core pieces to pair with the eventual arrival of Zion and begin an accelerated, rebuilding process.

Thus far, I would say both sides can proclaim "mission-accomplished" and are happy with the current outcome. Lakers likely to win the championship in Year 1 and Pels have an exciting, All-NBA, tandem with Ingram and Zion, several quality role players (Lonzo, Hart, Hayes, Didi, NAW), a trove of future assests and a myriad of team-building options to pursue in hopes of winning their own championship(s) in the near future.

While I desperately wanted the Lakers to not succeed (AD's disgraceful exit/extreme disdain for Bron's, non-loyal,team-shopping, quasi GM role in hostaging a team to sign/resign his LRMR agency's clientele, self-grandiosing personality, etc.), I view the trade strictly from a Pelicans standpoint and concluded that it is and will be viewed as one of the greatest trades in NBA history from a dual-sided perspective.
No losers, just how much more, over time (10 year period), one teams wins over the other and the League, for that matter. Year 1= Lakers 1. Pels incomplete. 9 more to go.... But, the Pels are positioned to win in the long-run.
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:49 pm to
Considering we basically had no leverage either when AD nominated Lakers, we did better than could be imagined
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15051 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:11 pm to
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Trust me no one views this as a real ring.


I agree 100% but Lebaby will beat his chest and pronounce to the world how he is now better than MJ b/c he got rings for three different teams....
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15051 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 5:15 pm to
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Ingram didn’t develop in 1 season.. dudes been in the league for a while now. Y’all didn’t unlock some hidden potential he just got more experience.



You are totally wrong on this. There are numerous examples I am sure you are well aware of young ex Lakers players leaving and then blossoming on teams. Reading Lakers message board they agree. Most were very surprised by Ingrams shooting improvement once he was on the Pels and Balls to an extent. It was almost half and half that were mad that Ingram was traded and not kept.
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