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re: Honest Zion talk for Emotional Intelligent Folks

Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:38 am to
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
1449 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:38 am to
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Shutting down stupid arguments?



Is this what I was saying, or is it just another shitty straw man?

You are constantly projecting on this board. You need to relax.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4059 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:47 am to
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He’s rookie you fricking idiot.


He hasnt even played 50 games dude. 38 total. Basically he is. And he’s producing despite all the distractions like corona etc.

Agreed not “entirely accurate” but you get it seems like. You cant compare him to second year guys who are 100 plus games into their careers.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9758 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:53 am to
Last night our front court got beaten down by journeymen. Adams makes almost 30M a year. Zion is a potential superstar. In 61 minutes, they combined for 24 points and 14 rebounds. Vanderbilt and Reid combined for 36 points and 15 rebounds in just 48 minutes. That is embarrassing. Sometimes it really is that simple. We can't win losing match ups.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110690 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 12:10 pm to
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Last night our front court got beaten down by journeymen.
Some dude named Jarrod Vanderbilt put up 16 and 11 mostly being guarded by Zion.

It was definitely not his best defensive game. Lots of standing around too, losing his man flat footed while the dude cuts to the basket. Standing flat footed looking up at a rebound while Vanderbilt was going to get it, effort stuff.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421730 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:12 pm to
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You cant compare him to second year guys who are 100 plus games into their careers.

earlier this thread i compared him to Blake Grififn who missed his first year

so yeah
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
1828 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:20 pm to
Watching Vanderbilt reminded me, where is Gabriel? We could use another 4 in the rotation if Melli is sitting.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4059 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:17 pm to
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Blake Grififn


Fair comp
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:58 pm to
SFP used to Knight for Westbrook, & thought Eric fricking Gordon had a brighter future than Steph Curry.

He shouldn’t be taken seriously.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421730 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:01 pm to
Oh shite I got a player comp wrong a decade ago. How could I ever be right about anything in the future?
Posted by NolaJake
Member since Jul 2017
123 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:21 pm to
I'm not going to read 15 pages but just wanted to say this has to be the dumbest fricking title of a thread that I've seen on here
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30087 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:55 pm to
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Blake Griffin


I think its fair to say that's right about where he's at.

38 games for zion
29.8 MPG
58.1/36.8/65.0
22.8 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 2.0 APG, 0.8 SPG, 0.4 BPG, 2.5 TOV
116 ORTG, 113 DRTG
23.8 PER, 0.145 WS/48, 3.2 OBPM, -1.3 DBPM, 2.0 BPM, 1.1 VORP

first 38 games for BG
37.3 MPG
52.0/57.1/60.2
22.0 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 3.4 APG, 0.7 SPG, 0.7 BPG, 2.7 TOV
112 ORTG, 108 DRTG
Season:
21.9 PER, 0.152 WS/48, 3.0 OBPM, -0.3 DBPM, 2.7 BPM, 3.6 VORP (VORP is higher over a season)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421730 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:10 pm to
Zions PER has gone up like 2 points since page 1 of this thread also
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:09 pm to
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Oh shite I got a player comp wrong a decade ago. How could I ever be right about anything in the future?

It’s not that you were wrong, it’s that you were off base and still defended it.

GOATbrook was always very clearly the weak link in OKC.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4059 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:20 pm to
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SFP used to Knight for Westbrook, & thought Eric fricking Gordon had a brighter future than Steph Curry. He shouldn’t be taken seriously.


Lol, agreed. Thats a pretty eggregious mis-call. I hate Westbrook.


quote:

It’s not that you were wrong, it’s that you were off base and still defended it.


Pretty much par for the course with SFP
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 11:21 pm
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4059 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:21 pm to
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I think its fair to say that's right about where he's at. 38 games for zion 29.8 MPG 58.1/36.8/65.0 22.8 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 2.0 APG, 0.8 SPG, 0.4 BPG, 2.5 TOV 116 ORTG, 113 DRTG 23.8 PER, 0.145 WS/48, 3.2 OBPM, -1.3 DBPM, 2.0 BPM, 1.1 VORP first 38 games for BG 37.3 MPG 52.0/57.1/60.2 22.0 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 3.4 APG, 0.7 SPG, 0.7 BPG, 2.7 TOV 112 ORTG, 108 DRTG Season: 21.9 PER, 0.152 WS/48, 3.0 OBPM, -0.3 DBPM, 2.7 BPM, 3.6 VORP (VORP is higher over a season)



Agreed. Zion’s better though. Better stats in less minutes and better PER.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158752 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:28 pm to
How’s this thread aging?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61440 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:33 pm to
I feel like this thread is old enough that we should have the ability to downvote it again.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
6223 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:09 am to
Props to Bronc and ATL for actually actually having some decent perspective early on in this thread.

Time to come by and eat some crow BronzeFoxx. This awful thread really should earn you a downgrade to your username lol.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31509 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:25 am to
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earlier this thread i compared him to Blake Grififn who missed his first year

so yeah



Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:29 am to
quote:

Props to Bronc and ATL for actually actually having some decent perspective early on in this thread.

Haha appreciate

Give props to Nola Jake as well who couldn’t even resist coming in to shake his head at this nonsense.
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