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re: Dejounte Murray for Dyson Daniels and two first round picks
Posted on 11/16/24 at 12:46 am to Townedrunkard
Posted on 11/16/24 at 12:46 am to Townedrunkard
It was almost unanimous that we fleeced them lol. I called it a trash trade when it happened and was told I couldn’t possibly be so stupid.
Posted on 11/16/24 at 7:13 am to htran90
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we catered to zion
This was the biggest frick-up of Griffin's tenure. He should have built a normal roster and made Zion adapt and grow. Instead, he tried to build a roster around Zion's many flaws and we pay the price every time he gets fat or injured.
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:28 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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He should have built a normal roster and made Zion adapt and grow.
What? Seriously, how? When we had players who didn't fit with Zion, such as Stevan Adams, was the team supposed to magically make Zion a sniper from 3?
Posted on 11/16/24 at 9:28 am to GOP_Tiger
No, but he should be different in year 6 than he was in year 1.
Posted on 11/16/24 at 3:28 pm to shel311
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Coming into tonight's game, he's averaging 15.2 points on 15.6 shots, and this poor fella is talking up his consistency
You realize he has a higher FG percentage this season than Murray has ever had in a season in his career?
Posted on 11/16/24 at 4:05 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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It was almost unanimous that we fleeced them lol. I called it a trash trade when it happened and was told I couldn’t possibly be so stupid.
I think Murray is a good player and will help. That being said, I wasn’t including DD in a trade for Murray.
I was on team Trae and for him I would have probably included DD.
This post was edited on 11/16/24 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:55 pm to spaghettioeauxs
quote:lol
He is wrong
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:01 am to Townedrunkard
Daniels leads the association in deflections and it is not even close lol
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:39 am to Lester Earl
hyperbole obviously but this is on brand for this organization
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:58 am to cgrand
I loved Dyson but he was tough to play in our system. He was a Herb with less scoring ability. We needed a PG. It was a good trade and I’m glad Dyson is doing well. This is the least of this teams problems.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:06 pm to BigPerm30
What is the system permy
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:18 pm to Lester Earl
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What is the system permy
We needed shooters and ball handlers to put around Zion. Dyson is neither.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:02 pm to BigPerm30
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he was tough to play in our system
Willie Green has no system.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:03 pm to SEC Doctor
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Willie Green has no system.
He really doesn’t it’s according to him playing with force and .5 basketball. Whatever that is.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:44 pm to cgrand
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New Orleans traded Dyson Daniels and he immediately became a Kawhi/Pippen hybrid… TOUGH BEAT
It’s why I said you never trade someone with elite level defense at 20…..
We should have been developing the other aspects of his game.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:34 pm to Townedrunkard
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New Orleans traded Dyson Daniels and he immediately became a Kawhi/Pippen hybrid… TOUGH BEAT
It’s why I said you never trade someone with elite level defense at 20…..
We should have been developing the aspects of his game.
Up here...I watch every Hawks game. It's amazing what a bit of confidence can do for a young player. Dyson looks like a totally different player on the offensive end. He's off and running again today...with 10 points in the first 6 minutes.
BTW: His over/under point total was still only 14 1/2 for today's game. I plan on riding the "over" on Dyson until Vegas makes an adjustment.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:40 pm to Dinky Mulberry
Not one of Dyson’s best games tonight. 5-17 overall and 1-5 from 3. In crunch time missed two easy bunnies and one really bad turnover. Meanwhile Shaedon Sharpe looked really good with 31 points.
Like I said- it’ll be interesting to see how teams adjust to Dyson now that hes someone who has the ability to score and how Dyson adjusts to the defenses being thrown at him.
He scored 12. I don’t think its a good idea to start betting on Dyson Daniels scoring numbers.
Like I said- it’ll be interesting to see how teams adjust to Dyson now that hes someone who has the ability to score and how Dyson adjusts to the defenses being thrown at him.
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BTW: His over/under point total was still only 14 1/2 for today's game. I plan on riding the "over" on Dyson until Vegas makes an adjustment.
He scored 12. I don’t think its a good idea to start betting on Dyson Daniels scoring numbers.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:12 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Not one of Dyson’s best games tonight. 5-17 overall and 1-5 from 3. In crunch time missed two easy bunnies and one really bad turnover. Meanwhile Shaedon Sharpe looked really good with 31 points.
Like I said- it’ll be interesting to see how teams adjust to Dyson now that hes someone who has the ability to score and how Dyson adjusts to the defenses being thrown at him.
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BTW: His over/under point total was still only 14 1/2 for today's game. I plan on riding the "over" on Dyson until Vegas makes an adjustment.
He scored 12. I don’t think its a good idea to start betting on Dyson Daniels scoring numbers.[/quote
Has 10 points 6 minutes into the game...then scored 2 points over the next 3 1/2 quarters. He was absolutely horrible today...after that fast start. Still got up 17 shots...which is a bunch. Counting today, the last 5 games he has taken 17,15,21,14 and 17 shots per game. Has scored 18,16,28,25 & 12...in those 5 games.
Bottom line...there's a reason they call it gambling...but he's covered the "over" on points for 4 of the last 5 games so...IF he continues to get up 17 or so shots per game...I'll keep hammering the over 14 1/2 points...although a coupla more absolutely horrible games like today's...and I'll definitely reconsider my current plan regarding wagering on Dyson.
Not one of Dyson’s best games tonight. 5-17 overall and 1-5 from 3. In crunch time missed two easy bunnies and one really bad turnover. Meanwhile Shaedon Sharpe looked really good with 31 points.
Like I said- it’ll be interesting to see how teams adjust to Dyson now that hes someone who has the ability to score and how Dyson adjusts to the defenses being thrown at him.
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BTW: His over/under point total was still only 14 1/2 for today's game. I plan on riding the "over" on Dyson until Vegas makes an adjustment.
He scored 12. I don’t think its a good idea to start betting on Dyson Daniels scoring numbers.[/quote
Has 10 points 6 minutes into the game...then scored 2 points over the next 3 1/2 quarters. He was absolutely horrible today...after that fast start. Still got up 17 shots...which is a bunch. Counting today, the last 5 games he has taken 17,15,21,14 and 17 shots per game. Has scored 18,16,28,25 & 12...in those 5 games.
Bottom line...there's a reason they call it gambling...but he's covered the "over" on points for 4 of the last 5 games so...IF he continues to get up 17 or so shots per game...I'll keep hammering the over 14 1/2 points...although a coupla more absolutely horrible games like today's...and I'll definitely reconsider my current plan regarding wagering on Dyson.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:47 am to Townedrunkard
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We should have been developing the other aspects of his game.
There's only so much development that can happen without playing in games. Dyson was not good enough offensively to play consistent minutes for us last year. Atlanta is a much better fit for him, as he can operate with much more space next to an elite passer in Trae Young. Good for him, I'm glad he's doing well.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:16 am to DallasTiger45
quote:Right
There's only so much development that can happen without playing in games. Dyson was not good enough offensively to play consistent minutes for us last year. Atlanta is a much better fit for him, as he can operate with much more space next to an elite passer in Trae Young. Good for him, I'm glad he's doing well.
The issue is we are/were not a good team but operated like a good team. Not saying that was wrong, but that is what happened.
Meaning, a team like the Nuggets the past couple of seasons, they're good, they know they'll be a top level seed, so they can give minutes to Braun and Watson and other youngsters, to ensure they can develop.
We are not good enough. We can not give young guys the minutes they need, like with Hawkins, so we can max out and do as much winning as possible...and yet still top out as a play in team, even with above average healthy compared to the rest of the league for our best players.
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