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re: Combine Thread
Posted on 5/13/16 at 4:32 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 5/13/16 at 4:32 pm to Lester Earl
Cousins and Whiteside both had reaches of 9'5", for instance.
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 4:38 pm to Fun Bunch
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Until he, ya know, played basketball. Which he wasn't particularly good at.
Looking at the big picture, most would agree. Digging into some of his box scores shows his potential.
He hung 18/9 with 6 blocks against LSU in 25 minutes. 11/8 vs UF in 15 minutes, 12/4 w 6 blocks in 23 minutes vs Stony Brook in the tourney. There is something there, that's just my opinion.
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There's no denying the potential, but that is strictly all he is. If you're at 10, yeah, worth the risk I think. That's no man's land in the draft and you have to start either taking big risks or guys with extremely low ceilings but high floors, one or the other.
That's all im really saying. Im not saying blow the 5th or 6th on the guy. He's just an intriguing option at the back end of the lottery
Posted on 5/13/16 at 4:46 pm to Fun Bunch
so notable Centers in DraftExpress's registry with standing reaches less than 9ft:
Robert Sacre: 8'11.25"
Mitch McGary: 8'11.25" (he was 6'9")
Al Horford 8'11" (6'9")
Joey Dorsey 8'11" (6'7")
Kyle O'Quinn 8'10.5" (has 7'4" wing span)
Ekpe Udoh 8'10.5" (7'4" wing span, and was 6'9")
Joakim Noah 8'10.5"
Cody Zeller 8'10"
Kevin Love 8'10" (was 6'9")
Miles Plumlee 8'9.25"
Noah is the only real true 7'0" that was any good with such a small reach in their database
Robert Sacre: 8'11.25"
Mitch McGary: 8'11.25" (he was 6'9")
Al Horford 8'11" (6'9")
Joey Dorsey 8'11" (6'7")
Kyle O'Quinn 8'10.5" (has 7'4" wing span)
Ekpe Udoh 8'10.5" (7'4" wing span, and was 6'9")
Joakim Noah 8'10.5"
Cody Zeller 8'10"
Kevin Love 8'10" (was 6'9")
Miles Plumlee 8'9.25"
Noah is the only real true 7'0" that was any good with such a small reach in their database
Posted on 5/13/16 at 4:49 pm to GynoSandberg
i know i hated Andre Drummond coming out because he was pretty meh as a Freshman at UConn. So im not gonna knock Skal at all 
Posted on 5/13/16 at 5:20 pm to Lester Earl
The problem is that Drummond already had a man's body. He was just lazy.
Skal is just super skinny and just wasn't that good. It wasn't a lack of effort.
Skal is just super skinny and just wasn't that good. It wasn't a lack of effort.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:30 pm to Fun Bunch
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Damn. That is terrible.
It's also not accurate. Report out said GM's think the combine screwed up standing reach measurements. Skal and Poetl are off. Poetl is 7'1" with ~ 7'3" wingspan. No way he has an 8'9" standing reach.
Also why multiple people are having record verts. Someone said to expect them to be corrected with the official numbers.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 5/14/16 at 10:56 am to Lester Earl
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Noah is the only real true 7'0"
6'10.5"
Posted on 5/14/16 at 11:12 am to NOFOX
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Skal and Poetl are off. Poetl is 7'1" with ~ 7'3" wingspan. No way he has an 8'9" standing reach.
fellow 7 footer Noah had a 8'10" standing reach with a 7'1" wingspan
could be off, could not.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 11:54 am to Lester Earl
Could be they have Chris Bosh necks. Shoulders are much lower on their fram than most hence the low standing reach.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 11:56 am to Eman5805
and you start to realize the length AD has...
6'9.25 at combine w/o shoes
7' 5.5'' wingspan
9' standing reach
6'9.25 at combine w/o shoes
7' 5.5'' wingspan
9' standing reach
Posted on 5/14/16 at 4:49 pm to GynoSandberg
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As far as his measurables, people are likening him to Amare.
Anyone that would say that would be someone I'd never listen to about basketball B/c they are obviously retarded.
This kid is still somehow living off his high school hype. Why anyone would draft him at all is beyond me.
I would like to draft a center, in the second round. He'll probably be better than Asik. AJ Hammons or some foreigner will do.
If our first pick isn't Hield/Dunn/Murray, then we deserve to suck and lose AD.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 5:15 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Why anyone would draft him at all is beyond me.
lol wut?
he's obviously high risk- high reward player. His upside is tremendous. Some kids just take longer to come into their own than others. What were you doing at 18yrs old? Do you remember your first job? I bet you were better at if after doing it for 2-3 years, no?
Posted on 5/14/16 at 6:14 pm to Lester Earl
I'd rather Thon Maker over Skal.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 7:06 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Anyone that would say that would be someone I'd never listen to about basketball B/c they are obviously retarded.
We are talking height, weight, reach, wingspan etc ... measurables. Not sure comparing that with two people is retarded
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:02 am to GynoSandberg
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We are talking height, weight, reach, wingspan etc ... measurables. Not sure comparing that with two people is retarded
You obviously don't remember Amare when he came out of high school. Outside of LeBron, there aren't too many high schoolers that came into the NBA with the physique Amare did. It showed on the court his Rookie of the Year season as well being aggressive and matching strength with grown arse men.
Skal is absolutely nothing like Amare, and should never be compared to him.
Skal is a good 20lbs lighter than Amare was coming out of high school, and doesn't have anywhere near the frame that Amare did to add more weight, like Amare did.
I just think it's a stupid comparison that makes no sense. So what if they are around the same height and wingspan. Their games have very few similarities.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:06 am to TeddyPadillac
Amare was 233 at the combine, Skal was 216 I think. So yeah
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:35 am to Fun Bunch
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Amare was 233 at the combine, Skal was 216 I think. So yeah
So you think b/c they are 17lbs apart, they both play with about the same strength?
The entire point is that regardless of whatever measurables you're looking at, Amare actually played like a man among NBA players. Skal looked weak among college players. Nerlens Noel is closer to 230 but still plays no wear near the strength Amare did.
People still think AD is too small to play center, and he's at least 30lbs heavier than Skal right now.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:39 am to TeddyPadillac
I was agreeing with you, Sir Persecution Complex
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:43 am to TeddyPadillac
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So what if they are around the same height and wingspan. Their games have very few similarities.
This is where youre probably going wrong, bubba. No one ever said their games were alike. And I am not denying Amare wasn't great or ready to play as a rookie.
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Skal is a good 20lbs lighter than Amare was coming out of high school, and doesn't have anywhere near the frame that Amare did to add more weight, like Amare did.
Amare was a 20 year old NBA rookie, just like Skal will be. There is a 17 lb difference there. Skal is also has 2" on Amare in height.
And Skal doesnt have the frame to add weight? That's pretty silly to say about any 20 year old, soon to be rookie.
This was just a general comparison about size. You guys are nitpicking here. It is nothing about Skal being in the same realm as Amare as a player. I repeat, it is nothing about Skal being in the same realm as a player.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:07 pm to GynoSandberg
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This was just a general comparison about size.
I understand that.
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It is nothing about Skal being in the same realm as Amare as a player. I repeat, it is nothing about Skal being in the same realm as a player.
I'm not talking about him being compared to Amare as a player.
I'm talking about the way Amare played with his size. Amare played like he was 7' 260, as a rookie. His body literally looks like LeBron's now, and he was 20 years old at the time coming out of high school.
They might be similar somewhat in size, but what's the point of comparing them just on size, when you know that Amare used his size to play like a beast, when Skal looked like a kid in college with his size?
A point is trying to be made to compare the two, and i just don't see what the point is. They aren't really the same size, and they are no where near the same strength in how they play the game at that size.
Would you say that AD generally compares to Dirk Nowitzki, or Kevin Garnett, when referring to size? B/c all three compare about the same, but you wouldn't put AD and Dirk in the same comparison.
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