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cgrand
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re: Celtics offer predictions
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Tatum
Hayward or Horford (which ever they want least)
Sac and Clippers pick (no Memphis pick)

most likely

i'd counter with

tatum
brown
hayward
LAC or SAC

you want AD or not?


purplepylon
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I agree with everyone that says Tatum and the Memphis pick are the two musts or the Pels hang up on them.
I think Ainge starts with Tatum, Smart, Horford and their 1stRd pick and the Clippers pick
Pels counter back with Tatum, Smart, Brown and Clippers pick and Memphis pick
Eventually they agree on Tatum, Smart, Horford and 1stRd picks from Memphis, Clippers and Boston


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TigerinATL
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Am I crazy for wanting Smart and a pick more than Brown? I still feel like there's this leadership void and Smart + Jrue seems like it'd be enough to steer the Pels into a tough nosed defensive identity. I also feel like Smart would make it easier for Jrue to take over the leadership mantle.


cgrand
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re: Celtics offer predictions
its a good question

lineup fit is going to be a big factor.
without horford (or another similar big) i dont think you can play brown & tatum together, but you could with smart


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DeionDeion
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Not at all, I lean toward Marcus Smart too, esp since he's cost controlled, is more of a ball-handler than Brown, and can pretty much guard anyone on the court. He's also got the fire that Jrue does and I'd just love to see them together
This post was edited on 2/7 at 5:42 pm


cgrand
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re: Celtics offer predictions
the flip side is that jaylen brown is an exponentially better shooter, can play/guard 2/3, is 6'7" 220 with room to grow, and COULD POSSIBLY be a team centerpiece

its a risk


Vegas Buffet
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Celts would likely rather give Jaylen than Smart, but it makes the salaries harder to match. They will probably use their MLE to overpay some slob at the buyout deadline and non-guarantee the 2nd year.

Tatum, Jaylen, MLE guy, Robert Williams, Grizz pick, 2019 Kings pick. Grizz pick is currently top 8 protected, top 6 in 2020, and unprotected in 2021. If it comes in top 4 or 5, possible Memphis would trade it for the rights to the 2020/2021 pick.
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DeionDeion
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True. I guess you can move forward with 2 different trains of thought.

One would be asking who do you think pairs better with Tatum & Jrue? So that you're not overpaying someone on your bench. In that case, I'd say Smart

The second line of thinking is, I don't care who pairs better, Brown has better upside and we will figure out fit later. Worst case, is that we flip him later


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Lester Earl
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re: Celtics offer predictions
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i must be the only person who thinks Zion is just a flashier DeJuan Blair

m
Besides being black & similar in size they are nothing alike


Lester Earl
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Offer will be centered around Brown unless AD commits to play there. Two draft picks, the rest really doesn’t matter. Brown can be a jimmy butler type player.


LesGeaux45
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re: Celtics offer predictions
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crazy for wanting Smart over Brown


Not at all. I think you risk losing Brown if you get both him and Tatum given that they both play the same position. At what point does he want to detach himself from Tatum and go his own way? Given the choice Is rather Smart.


ErikGordan
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re: Celtics offer predictions
Al Hartford will opt out. AD will not extend.
Boston offers Haywood and two firsts.


LouisianaJoseph
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re: Celtics offer predictions
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. I also feel like Smart would make it easier for Jrue to take over the leadership mantle

Jrue isn't a leader and has explicitly stated he doesn't want to be.


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FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
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Am I crazy for wanting Smart and a pick more than Brown? I still feel like there's this leadership void and Smart + Jrue seems like it'd be enough to steer the Pels into a tough nosed defensive identity. I also feel like Smart would make it easier for Jrue to take over the leadership mantle.

NO, not to me, smart is a great team player who plays hard even after his new contract. He and Jrue would be great as long as they have a shooter or two around them. Good to see Smart shot improving as well.


Want: Tatum, Smart, Hortford, 3 firsts.

expecting: Brown,, Hayward, Morris 3 firsts.






TeddyPadillac
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What I definitely want from them is Tatum and Smart. The rest is where the negotiations happen.
They can't send us Hayward or Horford without us sending out Solo or Moore.

What I would love to get from them is Tatum/Smart/Brown/Williams and the Clips&Sacto picks

Don't trade your picks and you've got 3 first rounders to groom as well.
Also i'd try to S&T Vucevic in the offseason getting rid of Solo. Bring Randle back as 6th man with Okafor.

Smart/draft pick
Jrue/Frank/Moore
Tatum/draft pick/Kenrich
Brown/Randle/draft pick
Vucevic/Okafor

We'll make the playoffs.


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CocoLoco
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If brown is the big return then we are screwed


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Not Cooper
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re: Celtics offer predictions
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Besides being black & similar in size they are nothing alike

Machine is so ridiculous with his Zion takes.


NOSHAU
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re: Celtics offer predictions
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i must be the only person who thinks Zion is just a flashier DeJuan Blair
Probably the only person in the world. Did you just look up Zion's size and make that comparison? Because, if you actually ever watching him play, you would think you were absolutely an idiot or stinking drunk to even think that they were comparable. I guess Blair had unbelievable athleticism that he decided to never display.


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PelicanFever
Member since Jun 2017
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re: Celtics offer predictions
Tatum
Smart
Horford
Williams
Memphis pick
Sacramento pick
Celtics 2020 pick

For Davis and Hill
This post was edited on 2/8 at 11:42 am


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Wes225
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Tatum, Smart, Horford, Sac pick, Memphis pick and its done.
Assuming Pels keep Randle that would have a starting lineup of Smart, Jrue, Tatum, Randle, Horford for next year.


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