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re: Bill Simmons insinuates Gayle is a clueless gold-digger

Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:06 pm to
He legit doesn't know much about the NBA anymore outside of the Celtics, Clippers, star players, or whatever memes his 35 year old writers tweet about. His only things worth listening to were when Zach Lowe would go on, if he could shut up long enough.

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His trade value article this year-spot on. What do teams want more than anything in the era of 1+1 contracts, buddies from AAU planning team ups, & heavy player movement? Young players on rookie deals. 7 years worth of player control, basically.


This is all he does. Just shitty guessing based off of social media and who's eating dinner together. None of it is real journalism. He is not in the know.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:06 pm to
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A bunch of white knighting going on here.

If you think Simmons is clueless about the NBA landscape, then my friend, it’s actually you.

Now does he nail every situation? No...but there are few, if any that have a better grasp on the league.
Two of his protégés, KOC and Zach Lowe, are the cream of the crop when it comes to NBA journalism.

Jackie McMullen, a friend of Bill, & Woj(whom Simmons fanboys over) are probably the best. Bill has plenty of sources in the NBA, including Justin Verrier, former Pelicans beat writer on staff , NOLA local Micah Peters on staff , among many many front office, coaches & players.

Gayle has finally come out and laid the smack down, which I 100% applaud her for, but stop with this Simmons is an idiot garbage.



I'm not as anti-Bill as some in this thread, and I'll still occasionally listen to his podcast.

That said it's hard not to realize if you followed Bill at all through the arc of his career that he's been on NBA auto-drive for most, if not all of The Ringer era.

His basketball IQ has slipped, his effort and interest seems to have waned, his homerism seems to have really gotten the best of him most days out of the week.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:09 pm to
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ThanosIsADemocrat



You are truly insufferable.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278159 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:14 pm to
Her behavior didn't become overt until Gayle started getting serious with Tom, and a power struggle ensued.

Im not sure Gayle's goal was to become rightful heiress, but in the end that is what happened. I don't think Simmons is off base here. In fact I think you'd hear a lot of local media members saying the same thing if they knew they could go after Gayle without looking bad.

I am already seeing people on twitter saying what Simmons said is sexist. Well look, if you are playing that game, you also cannot give her sympathy just because she is a woman, and classy, and soft spoken. She should be accountable like any owner.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:16 pm to
A guy with multiple front offices guys, coaches, journalists, reporters, radio guys, players & ex-players on speed dial isn’t in the know? A lot of this board hangs on every word MM says because he talks to some FO guys. Now extrapolate that on a nationwide platform, with his reputation and backing? Get the frick out of here with that logic.

He practically invented the cult of Morey, for example, so you can add the Rockets to that list.

He’s interviewed every relevant person in the Warriors franchise, so add them to the list.

And on. And on. And on.

Now does he know Memphis, New Orleans(as ive said many times), Orlando very well? Probably not, but the guy goes to every fricking NBA mega event. Those guys talk to each other.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:18 pm to
ok, guy. Bill Simmons is an NBA insider and knows Gayle's intentions.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:21 pm to
I can appreciate his passion but he regularly tries to talk about things he knows nothing about

What's even worse is the fanboys who grovel at the feet of him and others
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:22 pm to
Finally, a response other than “no he’s not”

Bill, by his own admission, doesn’t write as much, dude is running The Ringer, his podcasts and his documentary projects going on. I’ll agree that he’s not doing all the heavy lifting.

The MisMatch is the best NBA pod on The Ringer. But Russilo and Bill are pretty good together.

This thread has been calling him clueless, that frankly is incorrect.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:23 pm to
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ok, guy. Bill Simmons is an NBA insider and knows Gayle's intentions.


And you do? What a weak response, guy.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:25 pm to
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You are truly insufferable


Cool. Would read again.

Posted by Charlito
Member since Oct 2007
1005 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:33 pm to
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ThanosIsADemocrat


Bill is that you?

If not you sure are knighting for him hard.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19221 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:37 pm to
Man this SOB talking about the queen of New Orleans....
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
1942 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:46 pm to
I agree with ya Thanos. I like the Simmons podcast as well as Russilo. And they are great together. I actually listened to the entire podcast before making a conclusion and it wasn’t that bad. Russilo was actually dead on and took up for the Pels (He also loves Baton Rouge and New Orleans). I think Simmons was misguided in what he read about the Benson saga because he read mainstream articles. We actually know more because we are from New Orleans and the Saints are like family so we know the family business. He also said that the Pels were unlucky with injuries and that the Saints/Pels training staff were horrible. Russilo was like it’s mostly ran like a football organization and they’re not used to getting bullied by a larger market. Also, that you have to wait and take the best offer.
Posted by LouBega
Member since Dec 2017
999 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:49 pm to
Lol. Y’all really think gayle is making decisions?
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:51 pm to
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lucid Tom Benson thought enough of her to appoint her heiress, and groomed her as such for more than a decade.

That was wishful thinking on TB's part.

"He had hope for her" is probably a better way of saying it than to say that he thought enough of her.

Things were very awkward for a long time before anything became public. Tifwiw.
Posted by hometownhero89
Center of the Earth
Member since Aug 2007
1567 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:52 pm to
Another note on this to the board, if it takes, again, multiple articles trouncing how loomis can't be both a great NFL GM while being a NBA POBO is accurate.

Those optics are complete shite, NBA is becoming more about optics with more player options.

Also if we're going to call out Simmons on being a homer who doesn't know nothing about what he's talking about. then you're really just projecting your own ego into the mirror and being disgusted at what you see.

Also Lester, i've seen more solid points out of a circle than you've ever made.
Posted by hometownhero89
Center of the Earth
Member since Aug 2007
1567 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 5:47 pm to
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Her behavior didn't become overt until Gayle started getting serious with Tom, and a power struggle ensued.


I love how the fact that Brees, Payton, Loomis, and basically everyone who was significant to the organization said Rita was insane and they would all rather work for Gayle is conveniently left out.

LINK

There's some great frequent accounts there that show Rita was the gold-digger, hence being a wage bloat in literally getting the most simplest of tasks done. I get plausible deniability. But don't defend Rita for the sake of making yourself right, there's no back door in that assumption.
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
1942 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 6:01 pm to
I think it goes without saying that it would have been a disaster if Rita took over. We all know that because it’s well known local knowledge. Also, about how Tom Benson had to demote her because she was to difficult to work with. However, like Russilo kinda pointed out that on the outside looking in that it seems like Gayle is a gold digger but we don’t know what really happened. And they don’t know which is why Simmons rationale was misguided.
Posted by kpop1
Member since Jan 2018
1648 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 6:07 pm to
Being a billionaire is a relatively tough thing to be. In the United States there are six states that have no billionaires.

Gayle Benson is a bright, dedicated person...oh, and a billionaire (only one in Louisiana). She seems to bring intelligence, class and moxy to her position. However earned, she is a billionaire.

Billionaires are able to hire the best lawyers, CPAs, PhDs, carpenters, gardeners, executives. She will do a good job because she wants to and her station in life allows her to be able to.

It is hard for us non-billionaires to fathom what that would mean.

Gayle Benson will give no quarter.

And if I am wrong, then something else will happen. It will not happen because Simmons is a sensationalist, regardless of his "basketball knowledge."
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:13 pm to
Rita went through something like 13 personal assistants in 2 years. That is a special level of bitchy and entitled

Throw in the lesbian related partying by Rita and an old school Catholic like Tom Benson was going to pull the plug.
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