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re: As of right now what percentage would you think Boogie will return next year?

Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9776 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:15 pm to
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At this point I just need to shake my head at you like the rest here


Another one bites the dust..
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32429 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:23 am to
I feel like you are a Boom alter, used to troll Pels talk.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38743 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:10 am to
the funny thing is that his "real" point (cousins will bail out as a FA) is at least possible and if you feel that way, fine. but ranting about how the pels "cost" cousins $30MM and thats why he will leave is just ridiculous
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9776 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:50 am to
I didn't rant. I'm arguing against 6-8 people that don't know the back story, mocking me and calling me a liar. I pulled the quotes and then, total silence.

I get that you don't like how I put it and maybe you don't see the perspective of the Pelicans' role in his contract negotiation. Or how they could be negatively associated. But you are smart enough to see that his people advocated against the trade and made emphatic guarantees. Maybe they were bluffing or lying. But everybody else in the league believed them, hence why the price was so cheap. Does all of that mean nothing?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32429 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:10 pm to
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Maybe they were bluffing or lying. But everybody else in the league believed them, hence why the price was so cheap. Does all of that mean nothing?

A lot of teams in this league are turned off by Cousins. I've heard it said that 10+ teams have stated off the record that they wouldn't sign him. He really wasn't traded for much less than Paul George or Jimmy Butler, though.

On another note, if you don't understand why his agent would bluff, then I don't know what to tell you. The Kings were going to trade Cousins, whether it was to the Pelicans or not. His beef should be with the Kings, if it's with anyone (which if you ever listen to him talk about them then you know that's where his beef is).
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38743 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:12 pm to
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But everybody else in the league believed them, hence why the price was so cheap. Does all of that mean nothing?

it meant something then, only in the context of convincing sacto to keep him and pay him. It didn't work

it means nothing now
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61479 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:16 pm to
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I didn't rant. I'm arguing against 6-8 people that don't know the back story, mocking me and calling me a liar. I pulled the quotes and then, total silence.


That's because we got tired of this stupid argument. We all know the back story. Where the difference lies is the interpretation of those quotes and the motives behind it. As usual your analysis is so against the grain that it's hard to tell if you're a little crazy or a lot trolly. I think it's past time that we agree to disagree. Is Cousins a lock to resign? No. But if he does leave the Pels "costing" him that extension won't be the reason why.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63484 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:29 pm to
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Lakers bound.



This is suggested every year for almost every significant player. Rarely does it happen.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115736 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:31 pm to
No man. You don't understand.

He's so mad at the Pels for "costing him money" by trading from him and taking him away from Sacto, he's going to take EVEN LESS money to sign elsewhere to spite them.

Makes total sense.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72005 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:59 pm to
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Maybe they were bluffing or lying.


Ya don’t say !?
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9776 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:15 pm to
I don't understand how everybody just brushes it off. Gordon Hayward left the Jazz and took less money over a contract dispute in 2014. But if eveybody is so adamant about it, I'll drop it. Its kind of hard when someone posts an OP directly on the subject. But I'll try not to bring it up anymore..
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11888 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:50 pm to
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But I'll try not to bring it up anymore..
Thank God! Find something else to troll about.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115736 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 2:13 pm to
Dude. Boogie may leave.

But it won't be because of your stupid reasons.

It will be because he feels like he can win more somewhere else.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25502 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Gordon Hayward left the Jazz and took less money over a contract dispute in 2014.


Is that why he left the stacked Western Conference to go to the 1st place eastern conference team that employs his beloved college coach and is set up to succeed for the foreseeable future?
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 2:54 pm to
Pretty sure we all know the back story chief. It’s all public and general knowledge.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32429 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 2:58 pm to
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Is that why he left the stacked Western Conference to go to the 1st place eastern conference team that employs his beloved college coach and is set up to succeed for the foreseeable future?

Yes, the only reason why he left

Would he still be on the Jazz if they offered him a 5 year deal in 2014? Yes, because he'd still be under contract. Does that mean that he would stay with them when his contract was up, if there was still a possibility of going to Boston? No.

There's definitely a possibility that Boogie leaves the Pels in the offseason, but it will have nothing to do with the fact that they traded for him last season.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9776 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:29 pm to
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0%


Bump..
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 2:13 pm to
Yeah bruh shame on us for not assuming he would tear his achilles two months later. What a bunch of idiots we are.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32429 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 2:18 pm to
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Bump..

As I said in this thread, I still believe you're a Boom alter.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9776 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 5:11 pm to
The next one I'm thinking about bumping is where I said that Rondo would get close to 10M this offseason and 10 guys jumping me, saying he would never get over 5M. But I was wrong on the Mirotic trade, so I'll eat that one..
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