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Anthony Davis and the Last Shot

Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:56 pm
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:56 pm
For the love of god, when is AD going to step up and say “give me the damn ball coach, I got us”. These constant game winning possessions going to Holiday nearly 100% of the time are a joke. Note: I can’t even say shots because half the time we don’t even get the ball up.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25564 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:57 pm to
I've been saying this for 3 years.
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3899 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:09 pm to
I guess Gentry thinks Jrue is Steph. He thinks he's still with Golden State.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:20 pm to
AD can't create. Would have failed as miserably as Jrue.

Ball should have been in Rondo's hands to create and find someone or get a layup.

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61506 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:24 pm to
That's the kind of thing that got them tied for #1 offense in December, it's crazy that they seemed to intentionally go away from that and lost the game with repeated calls for ISO ball.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Chuckiee
Member since Jan 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:43 pm to
You’re absolutely correct. Davis cannot create an opening other than a jab fake. I don’t have a problem with Jrue having the ball with the game on the line. I have a problem with him making a move with 3 seconds left while he holds it for 10 seconds at the key.
Posted by SuperSoakher
Member since Jun 2012
4585 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:04 am to
Dude was nearly at midcourt with 3 seconds left. What the frick was that
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:08 am to
quote:

That's the kind of thing that got them tied for #1 offense in December, it's crazy that they seemed to intentionally go away from that and lost the game with repeated calls for ISO ball


One theory- they want to limit TOs in crunch time. Less passes means you're usually at least getting a shot off.

But I do think you're right. They should be who they are, which is a ball/man movement team
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31927 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:21 am to
quote:

AD can't create. Would have failed as miserably as Jrue.

We had 18 seconds left, plenty of time to get it to AD near the block or at the ft line and let him try to go to work
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11909 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:36 am to
Two of the best big men in the game and we do not even try to get it to either on the block. Instead, that is the crap that Gentry called out of the timeout? Unbelievable.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:43 am to
Did you see Boogie's possessions on the block? Give it to him there and the game likely ends with a turnover and a dunk the other way.

Again, if you guys want to pretend you know more than Gentry, at least offer the correct solution. You put the ball in Rondo's hands and run Horns or a double screen and roll where AD dives and Boogie pops. Shooters space and Rondo either hits AD, Boogie, shooters or gets to the rim himself. That is the most likely play to work and also not result in a turnover
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278413 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:46 am to
This is correct. But was rondo even in the game?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61506 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:46 am to
Why would you want to get it to Cousins on the block? He had turned it over like the last 3 times you tried that. They should have run a play with multiple options, not an iso for anyone.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:17 am to
quote:

AD can't create. Would have failed as miserably as Jrue.

Ball should have been in Rondo's hands to create and find someone or get a layup.



AD can at least get a contested jumper off at the end. We’d at least see a shot attempt. And you say he can’t create in the clutch. You may very well be right, but I’d damn sure like to see him get the opportunity. It doesn’t matter how often Jrue/Boogie fail. We go back to the well. Let me see what our franchise player can do. Duncan and Garnett were not these crazy iso players but they managed to get their fair share of GW FGA.

These straw man “coaches know better” arguments are BS. Consistent failure says otherwise. This has been a problem ever since we started the Jrue / Reke / EG experiment.

Maybe they’re going by what they see in practice. Jrue dominating Rondo/Nelson on isos is not the same as being guarded by the other teams best perimeter defender.

Demarcus turned the ball over 3x in a row trying to drive to the basket from the same spot on the floor. That’s acceptable, but AD getting a chance to stop and pop over a defender isn’t? Come on.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:47 am to
No. Rondo was not. And if you watch the timeout before the play, Boogie asks Rondo, "Where are you?" and Rondo just shrugs.

It made no sense to not have him in the Gentry. It was a TERRIBLE design all around by Gentry. One he should be getting bashed. But it was one play out of 200+ plays. What really killed them was the turnovers. Control those and Gentry doesn't get to frick up the last play.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25564 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:58 am to
quote:

AD can't create


You think AD cant create a cpntested jumpshot?

Thats what every last second shoy is.
I'd rather see AD with the ball at the top of the key for the iso. Of course it will be a low percentage shot, but he's your superstar, and no one will block his shot.

Worked just fine against OKC, which was forever ago
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14500 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:06 am to
quote:

These straw man “coaches know better” arguments are BS. Consistent failure says otherwise.



This, and the teams Gentry has been HC on have been consistent failures at each and every stop. This is nothing new. And it is not surprising. He had the one season outlier...the exception to what has predominantly been the rule.

Yes, there are egos and prima donnas in the mix but that is nothing you don't see on the vast majority of NBA teams. The record shows IMHO that AG has not shown the capacity to manage that at a level that merits the multiple chances he's had to be an NBA head coach.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:10 am to
NOBODY and I mean nobody thinks Gentry is a good coach.

My lone point is that if you guys think that changing the coach will magically make these players change their terrible habits, you will be disappointed. Plenty if blame lies with them and they need to change, regardless of who the coach is. And no coach is gonna come in and tell them anything different than everyone already has. They have been told what they need to change a hundred times
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5108 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:23 am to
One of the biggest problems on this team and it is tough to say this but it is boogie. He doesn’t play team defense, offense, turns the ball over way too much, lacks effort and gases out way too often. If they aren’t trying to move him for some key pieces to fit within this team then I believe that is a big mistake
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80179 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:31 am to
Boogie touches the ball way too much.
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