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Annual GM Survey is out
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:50 pm
Link here
Notable to Pels:
Notable to Pels:
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Which team’s level of success this season is toughest to predict? 1. Philadelphia 76ers – 47% T-2. Dallas Mavericks – 7% T-2. Golden State Warriors – 7% T-2. Houston Rockets – 7% T-2. LA Clippers – 7% T-2. Los Angeles Lakers – 7% T-2. Memphis Grizzlies – 7% T-2. New Orleans Pelicans – 7%
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Who is the best perimeter defender in the NBA? 1. Dyson Daniels, Atlanta – 31% 2. Alex Caruso, Oklahoma City – 24% 3. Amen Thompson, Houston – 22% 4. Lu Dort, Oklahoma City – 14% 5. Jrue Holiday, Portland – 7% 6. Ausar Thompson, Detroit – 2% » Last year: Jrue Holiday – 43%
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:57 pm to quail man
I don't mind giving up Daniels. We picked Herb over him. His offense still sucks.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 2:42 pm to saints5021
Who cares about Dyson Daniels , he is not on the Pelicans.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 3:31 pm to saints5021
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I don't mind giving up Daniels. We picked Herb over him. His offense still sucks.
I don't know why you guys have to blemish the truth. He wasn't great offensively, but he definitely didn't suck.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:04 pm to CP3forMVP
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but he definitely didn't suck.
nobody said he sucked.
his offense sucks, which it still does.
The only difference is while the Pelicans made him live on the outside & mainly take 3s (which he's mediocre at), Hawks are allowing the offense to flow through him at times and Young setting him up: which allows him to slash, attack, and actually get himself into some easier situations
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:38 pm to htran90
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nobody said he sucked. his offense sucks, which it still does.
He responded to the guy who said quite literally that his offense sucks
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His offense still sucks
By talking about his OFFENSE not sucking .
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He wasn't great offensively, but he definitely didn't suck.
So yeah no shite, cp3 didn’t cause anybody of saying he sucks.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 2:37 am to saints5021
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I don't mind giving up Daniels. We picked Herb over him. His offense still sucks.
No we didn’t. We made a bad trade that someone on here tried to say so and got downvoted into oblivion but was 100% right about….
We should have both DD and Herb
Just say the word and I’ll be glad to bump the thread to embarrass most of the posters on here….
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 2:43 am
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:31 am to saints5021
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don't mind giving up Daniels. We picked Herb over him. His offense still sucks.
Herb jones is barely a better offensive player than Daniels, if at all. He is 5 years older, too.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:51 am to Lester Earl
Shamit has previously posted the data showing just how markedly better our offense has been when Herb is on the court. Herb does so many little things well that don't show up on the stat sheet (like setting interior screens for Zion or Trey). And of course, Herb is an elite offensive player on the fast break, and his defense generates a lot more fastbreak opportunities.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:09 am to saints5021
DD wants the bag too. I just read a blurb about he and the Hawks are far away from an extension.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:08 am to htran90
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nobody said he sucked.
...
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I don't mind giving up Daniels. We picked Herb over him. His offense still sucks.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 9:09 am
Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:00 am to CP3forMVP
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His offense still sucks.
That’s kinda what all you haters can hang on to at this point. He hits a better ft percentage, he’s probably at 16/17 ppg next year. Man that’s horrible.
Griff gave away the best defensive wing in the league who probably shoukd have won DPOY during his 21 year old season. Collosssl frick up this organization.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 10:01 am
Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:25 am to Townedrunkard
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He hits a better ft percentage
So something hes never done has to change. Got it.
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Griff gave away
He traded him for a more polished version and better offensive player that suffered two catastrophic injuries. Nothing was given away.
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who probably shoukd have won DPOY during his 21 year old season. Collosssl frick up this organization.
Ah yes, with him being defensive player of the year I'm sure paired with Trae they made the playoffs and made noise!
Oh wait. They didnt. Defense is overrated in modern nba. Give me shot makers.
I'd also like to add hes a complete liability in crunch time when you need offense.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:43 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Give me shot makers.
Like that 39% Murray shot last year?
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So something hes never done has to change. Got it.
He’s doing stuff on the defensive side of the ball that’s never been done at his age. It’s not like he’s a finished product. Just 22. What was Herb doing on offense at that age?
Keep dying on this hill, just take the L that you were dead wrong about the trade.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:01 pm to Townedrunkard
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Just say the word and I’ll be glad to bump the thread to embarrass most of the posters on here….
Word.
I'm curious to know my reaction at the time
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:43 pm to Townedrunkard
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Like that 39% Murray shot last year?
Murray was brought in to be a offensive initiator, him shooting a career low on a team starting Jr fricking e isnt the gotcha you think it is.
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He’s doing stuff on the defensive side of the ball that’s never been done at his age. It’s not like he’s a finished product. Just 22.
Sure, he doesnt have it between the ears, you know this, and again, didnt fit our timeline. The idea was to win playoff series with Ingram Trey Zion and DJ. every single one of those players got hurt.
And even still, Dyson having a career year for him had the Hawks not making the playoffs. Even with him being a supposed dpoty.
Your only hope is that he becomes something he hasn't shown. Good luck with that. He had the worst plus minus on the TEAM against the heat in the last play in game.
The Hawks are also going to have to give him 9 figures to keep him, and no one in the league would pay a non scoring guard that kind of money.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:16 pm to whatiknowsofar
I will be Interested to see what contract he gets.
Dyson is still very young and is a beast on defense.
I don't think pels were ever going to keep both him and Herb.
I wonder who else Griff could've traded Dyson and tje pick for
Dyson is still very young and is a beast on defense.
I don't think pels were ever going to keep both him and Herb.
I wonder who else Griff could've traded Dyson and tje pick for
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