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re: 5 Potential Offseason Paths w/o Jrue
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:38 pm to Jester
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:38 pm to Jester
Philly has over $50 million in cap space. They can get even lower than that. There is no benefit for them other than warm fuzzies or whatever we pay them.
Brooklyn finally has their own pick in 2019, so it seems like they really should be planning to tank after next season. Why sign Holiday to a deal you won't be able to trade when you'll need to hit the reset button soon? If tanking isn't in their future plans, then Lin/Holiday/Lopez isn't the worst core to chase .500 and the 8 seed with.
Brooklyn finally has their own pick in 2019, so it seems like they really should be planning to tank after next season. Why sign Holiday to a deal you won't be able to trade when you'll need to hit the reset button soon? If tanking isn't in their future plans, then Lin/Holiday/Lopez isn't the worst core to chase .500 and the 8 seed with.
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:43 pm to TigerinATL
To be honest, I really don't think Brooklyn is a player in this as much as we've bantered it about.
Philly is, but again, I think they'll sign him out right because of their cap situation and because of their young core. Holiday can be very effective in Philly with Embiid and Simmons surrounding him.
New York is who to watch out for if anyone else only because he is the type of PG Phil Jackson wants and would probably go there if his brother wants to stay.
But, the final reality, to me, is that we are our own competition for Jrue's services unless he takes a tremendous paycut to be a backup on a contender (which I don't see happening).
Philly is, but again, I think they'll sign him out right because of their cap situation and because of their young core. Holiday can be very effective in Philly with Embiid and Simmons surrounding him.
New York is who to watch out for if anyone else only because he is the type of PG Phil Jackson wants and would probably go there if his brother wants to stay.
But, the final reality, to me, is that we are our own competition for Jrue's services unless he takes a tremendous paycut to be a backup on a contender (which I don't see happening).
Posted on 4/20/17 at 1:05 pm to Crewz
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You are an unappreciative little twat. Just shut your mouth and say thank you to all the "bloggers" who gave you tons of high level content over the years and undoubtedly helped educate you on the Pels, the CBA, etc more than anyone else
You're welcome!
Troll swagger on a hundred-thousand-million
Posted on 4/20/17 at 2:46 pm to Crewz
Sounds like it's time for you to re-balance your meds again.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 2:50 pm to NOFOX
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4.5% raises
5% raises in the new CBA.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 2:52 pm to Crewz
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You are an unappreciative little twat. Just shut your mouth and say thank you to all the "bloggers" who gave you tons of high level content over the years and undoubtedly helped educate you on the Pels, the CBA, etc more than anyone else
You're welcome!
gotdamn
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:16 pm to TigerinATL
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Philly has over $50 million in cap space. They can get even lower than that. There is no benefit for them other than warm fuzzies or whatever we pay them.
Tankerrific!
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:06 pm to BallHawk
Has this twat Crewz been right about anything he has posted releated to the Pelicans? Dude is just horrible
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:42 pm to BallHawk
I like 3 and 5 the best. I like 3 because we get Bledsoe who I think is very very good, especially on offense, plus two more decent options with Clark and Barbosa. I really like 5 because you get a good mix of great shooters/defense with that team if you add Collison, Batum, and Matthews. Only problem with that one is Collison isn't a great passer, but you can use Batum as a point forward. I would give 5 the slight edge though because you get rid of Asik in that scenario, not for 3 though. Any of those scenarios though I would be fine with, but I would rather 3 or 5 if I had to choose.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:50 pm to BallHawk
4 is the best. With 4 you get the best fits. A pass first, good defensive PG. A knock down shooter in CJ Miles. And a 3 n D with Tucker
any deal with wesley matthews is terrible. He just hasnt been the same player
Give me Rubio or Lin. We dont need Bledsoe's scoring. You have two 25ppg big men. You have to make up your mind what kind of team you want to have. Bringing in Bledsoe would look good on paper, but would be a disaster paired with ballhog Boogie.
any deal with wesley matthews is terrible. He just hasnt been the same player
Give me Rubio or Lin. We dont need Bledsoe's scoring. You have two 25ppg big men. You have to make up your mind what kind of team you want to have. Bringing in Bledsoe would look good on paper, but would be a disaster paired with ballhog Boogie.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:39 pm to Lester Earl
Agree. Pass first point guard. Scoring from our bigs. I'd make a play for Hardaway, Jr.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 7:18 am to Gtothemoney
right. they have two top 10 talents in the league in the frontcourt. everything needs to be about maximizing that pairing on both ends. find guys who understand it's the Davis/Boogie show and are willing/able to fit in around their games.
the talk of Bledsoe/Dragic has never made much sense to me in reality for that reason. those guys are great when they are the fulcrums of an offense. that just isnt the case in NO.
if being unwilling/unable to leverage that duo means Gentry has to go, so be it. they've got 12 months to make a lasting impression on Cousins.
the talk of Bledsoe/Dragic has never made much sense to me in reality for that reason. those guys are great when they are the fulcrums of an offense. that just isnt the case in NO.
if being unwilling/unable to leverage that duo means Gentry has to go, so be it. they've got 12 months to make a lasting impression on Cousins.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 7:51 am to corndeaux
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the talk of Bledsoe/Dragic has never made much sense to me in reality for that reason.
I get why you say that, but there were multiple games where AD/DC dropped 50+ and they still lost. It just often felt like they needed a 3rd scorer. I have no problem with adding Rubio/Lin whether Holiday stays or goes, but Jordan Crawford can't be your best scoring guard. Post ASB he was, averaging 14.1 in 23 MPG compared to Holiday's 13.8 in 33 MPG.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:01 am to TigerinATL
They will never go anywhere of significance without a good lead guard. You can't just surround the two bigs with shooters only.
I know no one liked the idea at the trade deadline, but the Rondo we are seeing right now is the perfect pg for this team if you find two shooters to go with him.
Watching the playoffs you see how important veteran playoff guys are like Rondo and Joe Johnson.
I know no one liked the idea at the trade deadline, but the Rondo we are seeing right now is the perfect pg for this team if you find two shooters to go with him.
Watching the playoffs you see how important veteran playoff guys are like Rondo and Joe Johnson.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:09 am to TeddyPadillac
Isn't Rubio basically younger Rondo that still plays defense?
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:20 am to TigerinATL
Yeah he is, but Rondo is a better finisher at the rim, and is a grizzled veteran, that still isn't that old.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:39 am to TigerinATL
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I get why you say that, but there were multiple games where AD/DC dropped 50+ and they still lost. It just often felt like they needed a 3rd scorer.
i agree, but i would say not scorer but they need a better creator and some more guys who can create off reversals/post outlets. they definitely need a lead guy who is better off the bounce, but is a willing passer and is okay spending many possessions off the ball.
it's fitting around the two bigs- not forcing Cousins/Davis into being screeners (which neither guy is particularly good at) for a guard to score 20+
i have legit doubts about Dragic being the player he was this year or that one year in Phoenix in NO. maybe Bledsoe fits better, but i'm not entirely sold on him either
ETA- also wonder about those games and they turn out with better shooters around Davis/Cousins or another guy or two like Moore who is just competent off the bounce
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 8:42 am
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:51 am to corndeaux
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i would say not scorer but they need a better creator and some more guys who can create off reversals/post outlets. they definitely need a lead guy who is better off the bounce, but is a willing passer and is okay spending many possessions off the ball.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:16 pm to TigerinATL
Dunn was a bit of a disappointment as a rookie this year, and Rubio played very well after the ASB. Realistically, why would Minny trade Rubio for a pick?
A Rubio/Jrue backcourt would be awesome.
A Rubio/Jrue backcourt would be awesome.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:26 pm to BallHawk
We should have traded him before the deadline.
I remember a few of you idiots on here telling me he told the F.O. that he planned on staying? What happened to that?
I remember a few of you idiots on here telling me he told the F.O. that he planned on staying? What happened to that?
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