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re: 2023 NBA Free Agency, Pels cap state

Posted on 7/6/23 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by HickfawJim1
Member since Sep 2013
455 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 2:16 pm to
Nurkic is just as injury prone as BI, and has 3 years left on his contract. Not just no, but hell no.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13282 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 2:32 pm to
Well I guess it's a good thing the Pelicans are only 1.6-1.7mil over the line at the moment.

Kira's contract will be prorated going into the season and will not cost the team trading for him the full 5.7 mil he's due for. Which makes trading him much easier as they get closer to the deadline. It's a much better route than using assets to trade him now. The Pelicans shouldn't be in any rush to be honest.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103972 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 2:34 pm to
Worst comes to worst, we stretch Kira.

$5.7m cap hit / 3 = $1.9m a season for three seasons.


The entire point of doing this, if it happens, is to sneak under the line so that our tax status doesn’t start until the 24-25 season.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17655 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 2:36 pm to
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My hope is that we can get Nurkic and dump Kira when Dame gets traded, but that’s just a pipe dream.

We getting a pick back for this?

Nurc is seen as a bad contract.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17655 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 2:44 pm to
Latest from Woj:

Portland is not in a rush, they will look around the league all summer to find the best deal possible before they settle for what Miami has to offer.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13736 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Worst comes to worst, we stretch Kira.

$5.7m cap hit / 3 = $1.9m a season for three seasons.


The entire point of doing this, if it happens, is to sneak under the line so that our tax status doesn’t start until the 24-25 season.


The problem is that we would have to make that decision fairly soon (by 8/31 or 9/1 I think?).
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:19 pm to
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Kira's contract will be prorated going into the season and will not cost the team trading for him the full 5.7 mil he's due for.


That would be true for every player. I just looked at the available FA guards. There are a dozen of them I would take over Lewis, if I needed a guard. Almost everybody is full.

So why is anybody giving up anything, even phantom picks? Lewis isn't a rotational player at this point and he's expensive..
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37054 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:37 pm to
I have no clue why the team picked up his 5.7 million dollar option, he hasn't shown any potential to live up to that.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13282 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:40 pm to
His prorated price isn't expensive. He's an expiring contract with untapped potential that's stuck in a logjam. Teams taking a flyer on him cost almost nothing and there's literally no commitment. And if he plays well, they have his rights.

You clearly don't want to see it. So there's no point arguing with you about it.




Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13736 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:04 pm to
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I have no clue why the team picked up his 5.7 million dollar option, he hasn't shown any potential to live up to that.


He was coming off of an injury and they were buying another year to look at him. Didn't work out.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30337 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:07 pm to
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I have no clue why the team picked up his 5.7 million dollar option, he hasn't shown any potential to live up to that.



pretty sure they had to do that last year, and he was coming off injury. There was really no reason not to.

and yes there are plenty of other guards out there that we can get for minimum contracts that are better.
Hoping Seabron is that person.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:13 pm to
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Or that you are smarter than all other NBA GM’s because you had NBA Pass on your smart phone


Don’t you dare act like I couldn’t airplay that league pass shite to my 75 Inch TV and get an extremely close look, brotha

When you got guys like Hali dropping to #12 in a draft (he was my #1 prospect) and Sengun dropping to #16 (he was my #3 prospect), yeah brotha I think I know some ball better than a few GM’s. I’ve broken bread with Dell Demps, Brotha.

I obviously don’t know Bol Bol. It could be an attitude problem. Play wise and skill set wise, he’s 100% worth $2-$3M to the Pelicans. Slide him into the Jaxson Hayes roster spot.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162908 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:15 pm to
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l possible before they settle for what Miami has to offer


Why? Tell Dame to kick rocks and play out his contract. No one forced him to sign that max last summer

If he wants to be traded fine, but they should be able to ship him to the highest bidder. You’re not a FA and they can’t really offer anything that should net then a player like him. I thought AD’s play was bad but this is worse
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13736 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:21 pm to
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When you got guys like Hali dropping to #12 in a draft (he was my #1 prospect) and Sengun dropping to #16 (he was my #3 prospect), yeah brotha I think I know some ball better than a few GM’s.
Haliburton over Edwards and Ball? Sengun #3 when Cunningham, Green, Mobley, Suggs and Giddey were drafted that year?
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1880 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:54 pm to
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3PieceSpicy


Weren't you the one OBSESSED with Collin Sexton, acting like he was going to be some superstar?
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
6525 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:05 pm to
Might be thinking about me. I started a thread or 2 wanting to trade for him. He shot 39% from 3pt last year and averaged 14pts on 24 minutes coming off a bad injury.

I still would have liked him over CJ knowing the situation we are in right now. Sexton at 17mil vs CJ at 35mil…..

I knew he was going to get 20mil or less coming off that injury. Injured after 20pt and 24pt seasons his 2nd/ 3rd year. He can easily be one of the best contracts in the NBA at 17mil the next 3 years.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17655 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

All-Star guard Dejounte Murray with CEO of @KlutchSports Rich Paul and Atlanta Hawks have reached an agreement on a four-year, $120 million extension, league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.

Good deal for Atlanta, I expected he would get a max for his next deal
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:38 pm to
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His prorated price isn't expensive


I'm going to need you to explain this to me like I'm a child. How is it different from any other player?

I get that during the season it goes down as the season progresses. But so does everyone elses. If you sign a FA halfway through, you pay them for half the season. That doesn't make Lewis cheaper.

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You clearly don't want to see it. So there's no point arguing with you about it.


I have been pretty clear with what I said. There are better, cheaper players available as FAs. It makes no sense for other teams to give up assets to trade for him. I believe we will have to give up stuff to move him or ride him out one more year. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see any team running to bail us out..
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17655 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:54 pm to
Updated OP

With Temple release, Zeller signing and EJ signing, we are 1.7 million above the tax per Spotrac.
Posted by PrayingMantis
Member since Jul 2013
1313 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:15 pm to
Shut the hell up about Sengun. We all know you like him ok dude. Every possible chance you bring his name up its weird. Doesnt even make sense anyway. He will be an average starter at best.
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