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re: 2023 NBA Free Agency, Pels cap state

Posted on 7/4/23 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by SaintTigerPel
LaPlace
Member since Dec 2017
1619 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 5:42 pm to
Brotha, it’s the fact that that you say things like “some of y’all haven’t haven’t watched the Magic and it shows.” You really think that you are privy to info, film, and knowledge that the other 29 teams aren’t, or that you are smarter than all other NBA GM’s because you had NBA Pass on your smart phone?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13737 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 5:49 pm to
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He was a plus defender on a bad team Brotha and he’s 23.

Could be a personality thing? Could’ve been a contract dispute? Could’ve wanted more of a role? Who knows bro? I aint There. You ain’t there.

Film doesn’t lie though Brotha. He was a solid player last year. He’s easily a $5M a year type rotational piece.

I know the majority of you guys are casuals and don’t watch anything outside of Pels games and especially not Orlando Magic games.

That’s why I’m here to fill in the gaps. Y’all just like to bash people for no reason and act like they couldn’t play a helpful role on the Pels.

Stop reading press releases, watch the film and get back to me Brotha.

The big knock on him in the draft was that many teams felt he did not really love the game. He did not put in the time or effort. Supposedly the Pistons wanted to trade for him last year but there was a medical issue.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20970 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 5:56 pm to
Cleaning the Glass says that the Magic were a net -4.7 points per 100 possessions when Bol was on the court, and they were only -1.0 points when he was off the court.

His offensive BPM was -1.8 last season. From 3-pt range, he took 1.6 shots per game and hit 27%% of them, up from 25% the season before.

He's a decent NBA defender who is an absolute disaster on the offensive end. Matkovic will be better.
Posted by SaintTigerPel
LaPlace
Member since Dec 2017
1619 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:11 pm to
Whatever dude! I watched 5.5 Magic games and decided dude is awesome! Watch more NBA Brotha! /S
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 6:13 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:14 pm to
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He was a plus defender on a bad team Brotha and he’s 23.

Could be a personality thing? Could’ve been a contract dispute? Could’ve wanted more of a role? Who knows bro? I aint There. You ain’t there.

Film doesn’t lie though Brotha. He was a solid player last year. He’s easily a $5M a year type rotational piece.

I know the majority of you guys are casuals and don’t watch anything outside of Pels games and especially not Orlando Magic games.

That’s why I’m here to fill in the gaps. Y’all just like to bash people for no reason and act like they couldn’t play a helpful role on the Pels.

Stop reading press releases, watch the film and get back to me Brotha.
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Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17655 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:06 pm to
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Sources: The Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs and Boston Celtics are finalizing a three-team trade: - Mavs: Grant Williams - Spurs: Reggie Bullock and an unprotected Dallas pick swap in 2030 - Celtics: Multiple second-round picks

Dallas is doing pretty good this offseason
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 6:07 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:12 pm to
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Dallas is doing pretty good this offseason


The Grant Williams part of this deal barely registered with me. I'm shocked that the Spurs got an unprotected pick swap in 7 years just to eat an expiring $10 million contract.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56555 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:25 pm to
So many teams in the west improving their rosters
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:30 pm to
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So many teams in the west improving their rosters


Last year the Pels needed a 3rd big and a shooter. When healthy, those were the only roster holes, and they were probably slots 7 and 9 in the rotation at the highest. They added those in Hawkins and Zeller, and I don't think they're done with trying to make moves in that direction.

I know what you're going to say next. The Pels are never healthy. Well if the Pels core can't stay healthy, then it doesn't matter what moves they made on the margins, does it? That's why so many people wanted to move one of BI/Zion for Scoot. Because everything else is meaningless bitching about moving or not moving deck chairs on the Titanic.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56555 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:33 pm to
I’m just tired of the lack of risks one way or the other. But I’d imagine next summer we’ll see some movement no matter what
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 6:34 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103972 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:38 pm to
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I’m just tired of the lack of risks one way or the other. But I’d imagine next summer we’ll see some movement no matter what


Minnesota took big risks last offseason. How is that working out for them?
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56555 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:39 pm to
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Minnesota took big risks last offseason. How is that working out for them?
everyone outside of Minny thought that was a bad trade. Also lack of risk taking has gotten us no where. Unless y’all are complacent with being middle of the road
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103972 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:49 pm to
Have to know what the lay of the land is with regards to what we can feasibly get and what ownership will pay for.

I’d loved to have gotten Scoot but none of us have any idea how real those talks were or what we would have paid for him.

I’d love to get a better big than Zeller to shore up our defense but that was what we could afford if we were going to lock up Herb long term.


I want an upgrade from JV at starting center but just wanting it doesn’t mean one that fits with us is both available and affordable.


In short, I don’t want to stay complacent but risk has to be calculated, especially due to the CBA changes with regards to the tax and repeater status.

Something that puts us over that better be the final piece to a major title contender or else we’re fricked long term.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:52 pm to
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The Grant Williams part of this deal barely registered with me. I'm shocked that the Spurs got an unprotected pick swap in 7 years just to eat an expiring $10 million contract.


Fantastic deal for the Spurs.
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
6525 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:55 pm to
We traded for CJ and Nance 1 1/4 seasons ago.

The 1/4 season: no Zion

Last season: Zion, CJ, and BI played 10 total games together.

Why would we take another risk before we see how our first risk plays out?
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
6525 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:07 pm to
The only move we can make is trade Val/ Nance.

Val really isn’t our issue. Lack of depth at both PF/ C was our problem last year.

Zeller/ Billy: wash
Val/ Val: wash
Semi injured Zion: wash
Semi injured Nance: wash
Healthy Liddell: +
Young playable center: +

Liddell and whoever we replace Jaxson with should be automatic extra depth.

Having extra help also means that Nance doesn’t have to risk injury as often by covering 2 whole positions. If Zion/ Nance stay healthy then we could pretty much have 3-4 extra players in rotation.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17655 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:15 pm to
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Fantastic deal for the Spurs.

It looks like the Spurs sent out four first round picks in the deal also, two to dallas and two to Boston
Posted by Hailstate15
ForeverGator's mom's
Member since Nov 2018
21466 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:26 pm to
Mo Bamba to Philly 1 year deal
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103972 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:40 pm to
Second round picks, and they had like 30 of them.

Hell, four of them were from us to eat Graham’s contract.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7921 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:54 pm to
If we had Jared Harper and Bol Bol damn we’d be so good
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