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re: 2021 NBA Trade thread BREAKING: Bagley to Pistons in 4 team deal

Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:01 pm to
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It's just crazy that Powell cost almost nothing (and makes a lot less than CJ) and isn't THAT much worse than CJ.


Since Powell fits the Trade Exception it seems like Portland probably could have gotten more value out of sending him to NOLA as part of a CJ trade. It makes me think all of the CJ chatter, which has been talked about everywhere like it was leaked on purpose, was posturing to squeeze whoever the real target is (Fox or Sexton?).
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:09 pm to
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Yet, over here people are ready to unload the whole clip for the guy.


Trading Josh Hart + assets for CJ McCollum makes me want to throw up a little bit the way Josh has developed this year.

ETA: Fox under Willie Green is an awfully tempting experiment though.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 8:12 pm
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4416 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:28 pm to
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Man I just looked at CJ's stats this year and wtf who would want him with his contract? He's clearly declining.


What stats are you looking at?

He’s avg 21 and 5 assist while shooting 40% from 3.

Idc about money—-it’s not mine
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 8:35 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:42 pm to
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Idc about money—-it’s not mine


The team still operates under the CBA so it matters, especially if he declines.

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What stats are you looking at?

He’s avg 21 and 5 assist while shooting 40% from 3.


Look at his FT%, PER, Offensive Win Shares, WS/48, and VORP

This is clearly his worst year since year 3. He's on the wrong side of 30. He's got 2 years at $33.3 and 35.8M after this one.

You don't sell young/improving talent and draft capital for a guy like that.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 8:43 pm
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1432 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:50 pm to
Unless you're name is Lebum.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4416 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:56 pm to
He makes 1.4 out of 1.9 free throws a game—-

Not sure you can take much from that.

It’s only two years left in the deal for a guy that fills what we need. We wouldn’t be giving them anything of real value. Hart is replaceable and the bucks first won’t be much. In two years his cap hit will prob be half of that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:57 pm to
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Unless you're name is Lebum.

If you're close to a title (which Lebron teams are by default) then it's OK.

We aren't there
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15077 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:00 pm to
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This is clearly his worst year since year 3. He's on the wrong side of 30. He's got 2 years at $33.3 and 35.8M after this one. You don't sell young/improving talent and draft capital for a guy like that.


100% agree, woukd not have minded Powell esp for the cost, but I’d rather stay away from CJ all together. The cost won’t be worth it. Rather try for Sexton. Nice mix of age and talent and shouldn’t cost much. Not a perfect fit but beggars can’t be choosers.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:06 pm to
Yeah Sexton's age makes a huge difference.

I fully admit I'm melting over Powell b/c I like him AND he was so cheap.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56582 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:24 pm to
Jaxson is worth 3 first round picks
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:31 pm to
It's a small sample size Jaxson is playing like he'll be a starting caliber player. He is definitely not a throw in or equal to 2 2nds any more. I'd rather keep him at this point. Find a spot for him or trade him later when he's worth more.

I can't believe that Jaxson has made me a believer. It feels so wrong.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 9:32 pm
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9256 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:38 pm to
CJ + 2 Firsts for Jax? Or does Portland need to add more?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43457 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:39 pm to
He can be Zion's backup easily

Man idk if let him go now. He's kinda showing you his ceiling. Which is rather high.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13310 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:23 pm to
Frick it. Hayes is untouchable!
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:37 pm to
I would much rather move NAW than jax.
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:38 pm to
Everyone would. Be a miracle if we could
Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
3164 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 12:43 am to
I agree that I would rather wait til the off-season to make a big trade for our supposed 3rd big piece, but I think alot of yall are downplaying how good a player Fox is and the potential that he, Zion and BI would have together.

Fox was one of only 5 NBA players last year to average over 28 PPG after the ASB. The other 4 were Steph, Donovan Mitchell, Beal and Zion. The dude is only 23 and this year he hasn't played as well, but you gotta realize how bad the situation is in Sac. It reminds me alot of Zions first two years here, before Willie changed the energy and culture of this team. If Fox buys in and takes pride in playing for his hometown team(he's from NOLA), it could be the perfect move for us.

It could just as easily fail though, so it really is a huge gamble and one I'd rather take in the off-season, after we know where our draft pick lands, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Griff is afraid of missing out and pulls the trigger sooner.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26668 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 1:18 am to
Hart, Naw, sato, didi, and 2 protected ones. Fox comes to NOLA?
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 1:57 am to
My man, that would be the deal of the century
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20975 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 8:22 am to
McCollum missed a lot of the season with his collapsed lung, so you're looking at a fairly small sample size with his stats this year. And he's played a lot of that without Dame on the court, which means that defenses can key in on him a lot more, so I'm not sure that the stats tell the full story.

I'm still in favor of a McCollum trade if we only give up Sato, NAW, Didi, and one protected first.

But even though I'm in favor of a McCollum trade, I still prefer Fox.
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