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re: Would REM Be Considered A Legendary Band
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:00 pm to Zappas Stache
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:00 pm to Zappas Stache
A lot of those bands come out of the punk scene, particularly the Mats and the Huskers. Sonic Youth has a case along with REM, only without the mainstream success. but the idea of alternative rock separate from the punk scene has its genesis around REM.
Of course there are other bands, and Sonic Youth is another mover, but I don't feel they are as significant. I love CvB, but they were never on that level. Femmes are great, but they are primarily a one-album wonder (which is a shame, I love their later work).
Of course there are other bands, and Sonic Youth is another mover, but I don't feel they are as significant. I love CvB, but they were never on that level. Femmes are great, but they are primarily a one-album wonder (which is a shame, I love their later work).
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:16 pm to AlxTgr
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Who would that be?
You know Chronic Town was '82, right?
Bauhaus was broken up by '82
The Jam had released 5 albums by '82
Robyn Hitchcock released Black Snake...in '81 and Groovy Decay in '82 and I would argue his '70s band the psychedelic/ folk of the Soft Boys were highly influential on REM....of course Graham Parsons was their main influence.
Husker Du was together before REM formed
Sonic Youth was formed in '81.
The Blasters released American Music in '80
Green on Red released Two Bibles in'81 and Green on Red in '82
The Gun Club released Fire of Love.....one of the greatest albums ever, in '81
True West released a single, Lucifer Sam in '82
Dream Syndicate released Days of Wine and Roses in '82
Feelies released Crazy Rhythm in '80
My point is REM was part of a movement and not the leader or first band to start sounding like they did.
The real father of alternative rock is Graham Parsons.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:23 pm to Zappas Stache
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My point is REM was part of a movement and not the leader or first band to start sounding like they did.
Satan created the blues
Elvis created rock
King Crimson created prog
The Clash created punk
REM created alternative
Nirvana created grunge
Korn created numetal
The Beatles created nothing
Feel free to add your own
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:24 pm to Zappas Stache
I like a lot of those. Dislike some and don't know others. I still think Baloo is right.
Almost no one has heard early Husker Du(it sucks) nor early Sonic Youth. The others are even more obscure.
Almost no one has heard early Husker Du(it sucks) nor early Sonic Youth. The others are even more obscure.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:32 pm to Zappas Stache
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The real father of alternative rock is Graham Parsons.
You mean Alt country? Or country rock... I love Graham, Burritos et al but don't see how it's alternative rock.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:33 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:Iggy Pop created punk bruh
The Clash created punk
or maybe like the Monks or some garage band, I dunno. I'll go with Iggy Pop, makes it easier.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:33 pm to LSUballs
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don't see how it's alternative rock.
Alternative rock is a faux genre. I feel like any band other than LZ or the Beatles are alternative rock.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:34 pm to Zappas Stache
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The real father of alternative rock is Graham Parsons.
lol no
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:34 pm to AlxTgr
If R.E.M. "invented" alternative rock, then The Pixies took that little invention, built it, & mastered it for all the world to hear.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:34 pm to danman6336
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Iggy Pop created punk bruh
or maybe like the Monks or some garage band, I dunno. I'll go with Iggy Pop, makes it easier.
Nah, it was either The Clash or Green Day
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:45 pm to LSUballs
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You mean Alt country? Or country rock... I love Graham, Burritos et al but don't see how it's alternative rock.
REM and Mitch Easter admit they were heavily influenced by Parsons and Roger McGuinn. A huge part of REM's sound and many other early, mid 80's bands (i.e. Dream Syndicate, Jason & the Scorchers) was what you call alt country but we called "alternative" back in the day. Graham Parsons melded country and Rock and then REM and others took that and ran with it.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:59 pm to Hetfield
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If R.E.M. "invented" alternative rock, then The Pixies took that little invention, built it, & mastered it for all the world to hear.
Not really. The Pixies, who were one of my favorite bands, were considered a real fringe band in the 80s. They weren't very successful, and were kinda looked down on by the scenesters as a band trying too hard to be a mainstream success. (That stuff mattered a lot more back in the day)
The Pixies are a band far more popular 10 years after they broke up than during their prime. I think if you would've told someone in 1989 that the Pixies would be, by the end of the next decade, considered one of the most influential bands of the decade, they would not believe you. But they were not that popular during their heyday.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:01 pm to Zappas Stache
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Mitch Easter
that name brings back come memories. Not only did he do great work with REM early on, but I was always a huge fan of Let's Active and the dBs.
ETA: Oh, and yes REM should be considered legendary.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:02 pm to Baloo
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I think if you would've told someone in 1989 that the Pixies would be, by the end of the next decade, considered one of the most influential bands of the decade, they would not believe you. But they were not that popular during their heyday.
Agreed, I am still amazed by the love they get today. I liked them back then but I felt there were lots of bands I would rather listen to.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:03 pm to AlxTgr
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Almost no one has heard early Husker Du(it sucks)
Boo this man! Land Speed Record is f'n awesome. But yeah, it is pretty stereotypical hardcore. Hardcore started branching out into cool directions like 83 or 84. By the time we get to Zen Arcade, they were at the forefront. Well, behind the Minutemen, but close.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:23 pm to Zappas Stache
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My point is REM was part of a movement and not the leader or first band to start sounding like they did.
No, but they were a frick ton more prolific than the bands you named, except maybe the Jam.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:00 pm to REG861
Enjoyed all of the responses. I am familiar with most of the bands mentioned in this thread because I grew up in that era but did not listen to anything that was too far outside the mainstream. REM and U2 sound mainstream now but in the early to mid 80's no one had ever heard music that sounded like that before. Great thread!
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:08 pm to genuineLSUtiger
100% YES
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:17 pm to genuineLSUtiger
I don't like them. I can't think of more than maybe 4 songs that I do.
A buddy just played one of their records the other day to convince me. I was miserable.
A buddy just played one of their records the other day to convince me. I was miserable.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:49 pm to Baloo
quote:Yeah, I don't like that kind of stuff at all. Gove me polish. Oh, and Hootenanny still sucks donkeys.
Boo this man! Land Speed Record is f'n awesome. But yeah, it is pretty stereotypical hardcore. Hardcore started branching out into cool directions like 83 or 84. By the time we get to Zen Arcade, they were at the forefront. Well, behind the Minutemen, but close.
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