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Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:54 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Absolutely. They've made several fantastic and always did what they wanted.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:56 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Who's better? Seriously? I think the biggest contenders would be the Velvets, CCR, the Beastie Boys, Sly and the Family Stone, and the Replacements (I could also make a case for Black Flag, but they have a total lack of commercial success). And none of those bands, save the Beatsies, had the same longevity or long peak.
REM was massively popular, one of the most influential bands of all time, defined/created a hug subgenre, had huge critical credibility, played for a long time, maintained its peak for nearly a decade, and their songs were flat out great.
REM is the birth of the Alternative Nation.
REM was massively popular, one of the most influential bands of all time, defined/created a hug subgenre, had huge critical credibility, played for a long time, maintained its peak for nearly a decade, and their songs were flat out great.
REM is the birth of the Alternative Nation.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:01 am to Baloo
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Who's better? Seriously? I think the biggest contenders would be the Velvets, CCR, the Beastie Boys, Sly and the Family Stone, and the Replacements (I could also make a case for Black Flag, but they have a total lack of commercial success).
James Brown and the JBs >>> Sly & Family Stone by a large margin.
Also, what about The Beach Boys.
Replacements are massively overrated by Gen X'ers
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:05 am to HeadyBrosevelt
Beach Boys should definitely be on that list, though I do unfarily knock them for the last 30 years of utter crap they have foisted on us. But during their peak, they were awesome.
I'll take James Brown over Sly, but I'll take the Family Stone over the JB's. The Family Stone are downright amazing. I think a lot of the praise Parliament Funkadelic gets should be going to the Family Stone. Shame about Sly, though. What a downward spiral.
I'll take James Brown over Sly, but I'll take the Family Stone over the JB's. The Family Stone are downright amazing. I think a lot of the praise Parliament Funkadelic gets should be going to the Family Stone. Shame about Sly, though. What a downward spiral.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:09 am to Baloo
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I'll take the Family Stone over the JB's
Nah mon. That JBs core of Bootsy Collins, Fred Wesley, Maceo Parker, Pee Wee Ellis,Catfish Collins, etc.. is just incredible.
I do enjoy Sly a lot, but for funk music the two most important bands are James Brown and The Meters.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:14 am to genuineLSUtiger
On the basis of influence alone, hell yes.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:18 am to genuineLSUtiger
I am a metal head & I love REM. Their piece of work is legendary. One of the most influential bands of the last 3 decades.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:21 am to Baloo
quote:Great post.
Baloo
I can't reply to your next one because you included the Beastie Boys. I'll never understand your take on them.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:35 am to genuineLSUtiger
Yes
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:41 am to genuineLSUtiger
uh, yeah
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:55 am to dnm3305
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but the production value is absolutely horrible. The guitar, bass and drums all sound pretty terrible.
They purposely muddied the sound on their early recordings. I like it. It gave the sound a more ethereal quality. Saying you don't like it is analogous to look at a Picasso and saying that guy can't draw very well.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 11:59 am
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:39 pm to Zappas Stache
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They purposely muddied the sound on their early recordings. I like it. It gave the sound a more ethereal quality. Saying you don't like it is analogous to look at a Picasso and saying that guy can't draw very well
I have original pressings of Murmur & Reckoning on vinyl. They sound great.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:15 pm to Baloo
quote:I could argue for Metallica as a contemporary rival.
Who's better? Seriously? I think the biggest contenders would be the Velvets, CCR, the Beastie Boys, Sly and the Family Stone, and the Replacements (I could also make a case for Black Flag, but they have a total lack of commercial success). And none of those bands, save the Beatsies, had the same longevity or long peak.
quote:Metallica has been all of the above, and on a larger scale than REM.
REM was massively popular, one of the most influential bands of all time, defined/created a hug subgenre, had huge critical credibility, played for a long time, maintained its peak for nearly a decade, and their songs were flat out great.
Nothing above is intended to argue that REM is not legendary. They definitely were. They earned legendary status with anyone who saw them play live in a small venue during the 1980's
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:40 pm to Baloo
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REM is the birth of the Alternative Nation.
REM did not create the alternative genre. There were many other great bands that came along at the same time and even before REM. Back in the early to mid 80's, Sonic Youth, Husker Du, Replacements, Violent Femmes, Jason and the Scorchers, Camper van Beethoven, 10,000 Maniacs, Sugarcubes, etc, etc, were all about equal with REM musically/artistically and in financial/popularity regards. Back then, hardly anybody listened to alternative bands. I remember trying to get my friends at LSU to listen to REM and U2 and it was just too different for them. REM is now one of the most financially successful of those bands but they are also pretty generic now just like that other successful alternative band, U2.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:45 pm to Zappas Stache
quote:Who would that be?
There were many other great bands that came along at the same time and even before REM. Back in the early to mid 80's,
You know Chronic Town was '82, right?
quote:I'm a fan of all of those, and I just don't agree with you.
Sonic Youth, Husker Du, Replacements, Violent Femmes, Jason and the Scorchers, Camper van Beethoven, 10,000 Maniacs, Sugarcubes, etc, etc, were all about equal with REM musically/artistically and in financial/popularity regards.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:47 pm to Zappas Stache
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REM did not create the alternative genre.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:58 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:58 pm to ThePenIsMightier
Yes
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:00 pm to AlxTgr
And this
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1. R.E.M. "invented" alternative rock
When it comes to alternative music and indie rock, says Charles Aaron at Spin, R.E.M. "created the model." The band's sound was an "artsy mix of punk-band energy, airy guitar hooks and mumbled, introspective lyrics," says James. C. McKinley, Jr. at The New York Times. R.E.M. didn't play power chords, and were unafraid to write about weird, sometimes angsty things, says Rob Sheffield at Rolling Stone. "It was R.E.M. who showed other eighties bands how to get away with ignoring the rules."
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