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re: Would Mozart or Beethoven have been able to understand or appreciate Led Zeppelin?

Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:22 pm to
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He probably would’ve faked appreciation.




Give him the sheets of composition and he would have loved Zeppelin.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:23 pm to
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I don’t think rap or pop music has any musical depth.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:24 pm to
Of course





Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:28 pm to
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Zeppelin is one of, if not the most musically talented bands of all time.



I love Zeppelin, but ripping off Robert Johnson and many others does not equate to "talent." I didn't know a dude in HS who couldn't play every note of Jimmy Page's catalog. Bonham was a drunken rock animal and Plant was singing the wrong style, if you ever heard him live, even then.

Jones was easily the most talented.

Mozart would have laughed at it. Metallica, Yes and others might have been interesting to them, but who knows? Artists tend to want to fit in with whatever is deemed hot at the time, so maybe they'd have talked themselves into liking it after a while.

When it comes to conveying and eliciting emotion, classical is peerless in its nuanced complexity. Rock has three gears - horny, angry and sad, or a combination thereof.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:33 pm to
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I love Zeppelin, but ripping off Robert Johnson and many others does not equate to "talent." I didn't know a dude in HS who couldn't play every note of Jimmy Page's catalog. Bonham was a drunken rock animal and Plant was singing the wrong style, if you ever heard him live, even then. Jones was easily the most talented. Mozart would have laughed at it.




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Rock has three gears - horny, angry and sad, or a combination thereof.


This post was edited on 3/9/18 at 8:36 pm
Posted by PhilemonThomas
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:34 pm to
Beeth Oven rocked the frick out in the music store in the mall in Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure.
Posted by Big_Slim
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:34 pm to
Upvotes for topic originality, too much repetitive stuff on the OT too often. And I don't think so, bridge between musical generations would have been too far. People would have hated Zeppelin if they did their thing in the 30's
Posted by TigerRob20
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:35 pm to
I just came to say there’s a fine line between country/bro country and pop/rap nowadays.

Posted by BR Tiger
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:41 pm to
Was just coming to post this.

Beethoven in Bill and Ted
Posted by BigOrangeBri
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:44 pm to
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I love Zeppelin, but ripping off Robert Johnson and many others does not equate to "talent." I didn't know a dude in HS who couldn't play every note of Jimmy Page's catalog. Bonham was a drunken rock animal and Plant was singing the wrong style, if you ever heard him live, even then.



I always laugh at this retarded argument. Yes, Zeppelin did recycle some classic blues stuff in the early years, but after that they really developed their own sound that had multiple influences.

As for OP, I would think they would appreciate prog rock, and lots of Jazz.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:32 pm to
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Zeppelin did recycle some classic blues stuff in the early years
Physical Graffiti was not the "early years" and what they did on that album was plagiarism, not recycling.
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I always laugh at this retarded argument
As do I, man. As do I.
Posted by Twenty 49
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:12 pm to
Zep, yes. Rap, no.

I listen to and appreciate everything from old time bluegrass to heavy metal to Western swing to bebop jazz, but I can’t go for rap. No can do,

Those old dudes would not like it either.
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:51 pm to
I'm sure Mozart would have loved the Beatles, as they refined and perfected rock music in much the same way as he perfected the classical style. Beethoven, being more innovative by nature, and of bolder temperament, would have surely dug Led Zeppelin.
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 11:15 pm to
Beethoven, in fact, invented the "bebop" style of jazz music. Listen to the finale of his last piano sonata (opus 111) to hear what I'm talking about.

I think of Zeppelin as being the spiritual heirs of the Beethoven legacy, and if the deaf master had remained alive and been able to hear the original Led Zeppelin in concert (not the Honeydrippers), he would have proclaimed, "job well done".
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 11:39 pm to
Almost certainly - they would have been amazed at the advancement of musical instruments.

Western music is fairly universal.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 5:42 am to
What if Mozart wrote the score to Star Wars or Jaws or Raiders?

Posted by tidalmouse
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 6:21 am to
imho,Led Zeppelin is,maybe,the one Band that they would get.

A lot of Zeppelin Songs have strings and are repetitive like a lot of Beethoven.

Kashmir.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 6:25 am
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:11 am to
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Beethoven was deaf. That's the only way to listen to Robert Plant.
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 8:22 am to
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Für Elise may be the finest solo piano piece I’ve ever written



Clair de Lune
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:56 am to

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No, but classic rock is more sophisticated music than new rock and the other three are the three most listened to music genres out there.


A lot of old rock and metal goes very well with symphonic performances.
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