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re: Who is on the Mt. Rushmore of country music?

Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:33 pm to
Can't say I have ever heard a sing thing by Jimmy Rogers, and I am kinda old.
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:50 pm to
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Can't say I have ever heard a sing thing by Jimmy Rogers, and I am kinda old.


he was the elvis of his day.
Watch the Ken Burns doc on country music.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:18 pm to
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I don’t get the infatuation with Hank Sr. Never have. Miserable arse music.


This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 3:24 pm
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:34 pm to
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Bob Wills is still the king.


of Western Swing
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20311 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Can't say I have ever heard a sing thing by Jimmy Rogers, and I am kinda old.


Mule Skinner Blues - 1930

Waiting for a Train
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:25 pm to
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of Western Swing



quote:

You can hear the Grand Ol Opry
In Nashville, Tennessee
It's the home of country music
On that we all agree.
But when you cross that ol' Red River hoss
That just don't mean a thing
Once youre down in Texas
Bob Wills is still the king.
Posted by bbqguy
uppa LA
Member since Jul 2006
480 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 6:16 pm to
The Carter Family
Jimmy Rogers
Hank Williams

You can pick the fourth from Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, George Jones, or George Strait. Arguments can be made for any of them to be included.

Didn't mean to slight any of the ladies; Loretta Lynne, Patsy Cline, Tammy Wynette, or Dolly. I just don't think any had the impact of the ones mentioned above
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29127 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 6:52 pm to
This is a good thread. I'll go:

Hank Sr
George Strait
Waylon Jennings
Johnny Cash
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 6:53 pm
Posted by ATCTx
Member since Nov 2016
1055 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:45 pm to
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I don’t get the infatuation with Hank Sr. Never have. Miserable arse music


In his very short career, he wrote standards that have not only stood the test of time but are remade over and over again to this day.

As for the sound, he was singing in primitive recording studios with ancient equipment. Of course it sounds bad.

He's the Babe Ruth of country music.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12755 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:24 am to
This is a great debate topic, because you can go in so many directions with it, and also lends some interesting questions.

Is bluegrass included in "country music" or is it its own separate genre? Do groups count as 1 entity or do you have to pick one person from the group?

If it is included I would say...
Hank Williams (timeless songwriter, tied with Jimmie Rogers as first megastar of the genre)
Bill Monroe (father of bluegrass)
Buck Owens or Merle (Bakersfield sound)
Willie or Waylon (Outlaw movement)

If we can use groups as 1 entity I would probably replace Buck/Merle with the Maddox Brothers & Rose, as they were really the foundation of the Bakersfield sound, and also brought in the flashy clothing. I'd also probably replace Willie/Waylon with the Carter Family, because I feel like they are more important to the genre overall.

Also, if bluegrass is its own area, I'd replace Bill Monroe with either Dolly or Loretta. I hate to leave out Patsy, but she wasn't the songwriter that Dolly and Loretta were.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
Swamps of Lafourche
Member since Aug 2008
7839 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:41 am to
Hank Sr
George Jones
Merle Haggard
Roy Accuf
Posted by VaeVictus
Member since Feb 2017
1524 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 11:12 am to
George Jones
Dolly Parton
Willie Nelson
Johnny Cash
Posted by FirstCityDawg
Member since May 2017
2519 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 12:07 pm to
Willie Nelson
Merle Haggard
Johnny Cash
Waylon Jennings
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/16/21 at 3:28 pm to
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I don’t get the infatuation with Hank Sr. Never have. Miserable arse music.

A big part for me (once I allowed my palate to hear beyond the twang) was how lyrically creative he was for his time.

Take "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry". Senior's arrangement on it was too fast so you really have to concentrate on what he's saying. It's really a blues song that deserves more of a blues arrangement.

Listen to Randy Travis sings it here.

Seriously who the frick in 1949 talked about time crawling by, robin's weeping with the arrival of fall and shooting stars against a purple sky? I definitely see why he was a major influence beyond country to future rockers and folkies like the Sun Boys and Bob Dylan with his word imagery.

Senior was breaking trails among the music of the common people and his lyrics are what made him the GOAT.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5593 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 3:34 pm to
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Is bluegrass included in "country music" or is it its own separate genre?


IMO Bluegrass is not. But you could certainly argue it is.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19252 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 4:01 pm to

OMG. It's hard not to consider Conway Twitty when you hear him sing THIS.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 4:07 pm to
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It's hard not to consider Conway Twitty
It's easy for me not to consider him.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21304 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 4:45 pm to
No. Willie is a much better songwriter.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 6:10 pm to
The steel guitar player with Hank’s band stated they played I’m So Lonesome I could Cry without practice in one take and the recorded version we have is the first time they ever played the song.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:08 pm to
Johnny Rebel, DAC, hank Jr, Johnny cash
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