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What is with the constant referencing of other songs in modern country music?
Posted on 8/4/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 8/4/20 at 1:43 pm
Where I work, country music is generally the genre played with a few pop hits tossed in. I can’t tell you how many songs I hear that constantly reference other songs (typically classic rock songs) or build songs around the chorus of another song. In an average day I hear songs that reference anything from Sweet Home Alabama, Jack and Diane, Dixie land Delight and others. If it was a couple songs I wouldn’t think anything of it, but there are so many that it’s ridiculous. Why is this a thing? Why does the genre feel like a product placement ad and not an art form?
Example: LINK
LINK this crap Luke Bryan song is another example using Fishin in the Dark meets Nitty Gritty.
Example: LINK
LINK this crap Luke Bryan song is another example using Fishin in the Dark meets Nitty Gritty.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 2:14 pm
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 1:57 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
I think it's just a cheap and lazy way to try to get people to like the song.
Because it is product placement. Everything is carefully orchestrated and intentional.
Because it is product placement. Everything is carefully orchestrated and intentional.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:04 pm to ThePenIsMightier
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I think it's just a cheap and lazy way to try to get people to like the song.
These days it is.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:08 pm to ThePenIsMightier
I agree it’s definitely lazy. Writing a catchy hook isn’t easy, so why not borrow an already successful hook and build a new song around it? It’s kind of like hip hop sampling songs to create beats only Nashville is sampling song titles and choruses to create “new” songs
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:21 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Modern Nashville country Music is extremely fake. The performers and writers never lived the lifestyle they’re supposedly singing about, so they use nostalgia via references to old legitimate songs as a way to make their music seem more authentic. If you have to convince people you’re the real deal, you probably aren’t.
A lot of Nashville country on mainstream fm radio these days is just hip/hop with fake southern accents.
A lot of Nashville country on mainstream fm radio these days is just hip/hop with fake southern accents.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:31 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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I agree it’s definitely lazy. Writing a catchy hook isn’t easy, so why not borrow an already successful hook and build a new song around it?
Writing a good hook isn't that hard, there are a lot of good songs still being written, but they don't even get a sniff from publishers and producers anymore. The good songs are too deep for their target audience to want to hear. They want Pulp Country.
There were some classic country songs that referenced other old songs, but they were well written songs on their own merit. Set 'em Up Joe, is the first one that comes to my mind.
LINK
Maybe I could write a song that references that one, I might be rich overnight.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:35 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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modern country music
Ugh.
I think "bad rock with a fiddle" is actually too kind at this point.
"Horrible pop with a twang" is probably more apt and fair.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:41 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
The prime offender in this case is Kid Rock's abysmal "All Summer Long," which lifts the piano riff of Warren Zevon's "Werewolves of London" and constantly references Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama," throughout.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:46 pm to Ace Midnight
Hip hop for teenage girls who are scare of black people
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:52 pm to Hoodie
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which lifts the piano riff of Warren Zevon's "Werewolves of London" and constantly references Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama," throughout.
It's actually a mashup of Werewolves and SHA, IMHO.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:55 pm to auggie
I just heard this Jason Aldean abomination. This is a great example of what I mean.
In one verse, hell not even a verse he manages to list 3 product companies and a classic rock band. I mean Jesus Christ, it’s beyond absurd.
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With pack of Red Man in his pocket? He's kind of red, man, but he's rockin' Where's the beat up Tele' and the Marshall stack Little Marshall Tucker and a six-pack?
In one verse, hell not even a verse he manages to list 3 product companies and a classic rock band. I mean Jesus Christ, it’s beyond absurd.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:58 pm to Ace Midnight
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It's actually a mashup of Werewolves and SHA, IMHO.
It is.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:11 pm to kingbob
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they use nostalgia via references to old legitimate songs as a way to make their music seem more authentic.
^^^ Here
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:16 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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In one verse, hell not even a verse he manages to list 3 product companies and a classic rock band. I mean Jesus Christ, it’s beyond absurd.
Right. Let's say something about Budweiser. all the bud drinkers will buy it, then let's say copenagen, then let's say F-250, if we can work in something about jack daniels and reese's cups, that would be killer.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:21 pm to auggie
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Writing a good hook isn't that hard
This is what it's about in popular music these days, whether the "popular" music is country, hip-hop, or pop. Get a hook written that's good enough to appease the lowest common denominator. The lyric-writing gets phoned in because the kind of people who enjoy those hooks don't give a baker's frick whether the words make sense or not.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:29 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
pandering
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:29 pm to auggie
I’m cynical enough that when I hear a specific product in a song I immediately assume a company paid to have their brand mentioned. However, there are millions of idiots out there who hear “skoal rings” in a song and immediately relate. “Skoal rings? Hell yeah man, just like my jeans. Damn I can relate. This song was written about me”
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:34 pm to Oswald
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This is what it's about in popular music these days,
Country music has always been written around a good hook(usually), and the hook is what you hang your story on, all of your lyrics revolve around that little catch phrase.
Those kinds of songs are still being written, but the radio programmers have decided that the listening public, is too stupid to follow the lyrical connections and innuendo.
The producers and record execs know that the music they are putting out is crap now, but radio is a very important part of the industry payday, so they have to give the programmers what they will play. Just like that, the least talented assholes in any part of the business, end up dictating the rules.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:39 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Just turn it off.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:41 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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However, there are millions of idiots out there who hear “skoal rings” in a song and immediately relate. “Skoal rings? Hell yeah man, just like my jeans. Damn I can relate. This song was written about me”
That's really what it's about. That song says Heinz 57, I put that on my French fries, that song's about me!
Unfortunately, we live in a country where people have become that stupid.
Years ago, some companies would have song writing contests, and there would be some pretty big prizes. The catch was, you had to use their product name in your song. I think they hoped they could find a song that could represent their product, but I don't think that happened very often, and they stopped doing that.
I remember one time, Wild Turkey had a contest like that, and Lacy J. Dalton won, with a song- No Way I'm Goin Home With A Wild Turkey Like You. Obviously that song wouldn't have been very good for advertising. I think that was what got her the attention she needed though, and she had a big hit after that.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 4:06 pm
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