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What band has the biggest tree of "offshoots"?

Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:01 pm
It's got to be either The Allman Brothers or The Grateful Dead, right?

My first thought would be the Allmans, but the Dead has a lot of related acts, solo projects, etc, as well.

Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:02 pm to
Neutral milk hotel
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:14 pm to
The Byrds: Roger McGuinn, Gene Clark, David Crosby, Graham Parsons, Chris Hillman.

The Yardbirds: Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:39 pm to
Who is a spinoff or related act is obviously up for debate, some came before, some came after, etc..


The Allman Brothers Band


From their Wiki page, and it leaves a bunch of offshoot bands off, such as Jaimoe's Jasssz Band, The Warren Haynes Band, The Derek Trucks Band, and others, including Duane Betts and Devon Allman and their multiple projects.

quote:


Spinoffs

Sea Level; Great Southern; Gregg Allman Band; Gov't Mule; Tedeschi Trucks Band; Les Brers; The Allman Betts Band

Past members

Duane Allman
Gregg Allman
Dickey Betts
Jaimoe
Berry Oakley
Butch Trucks
Chuck Leavell
Lamar Williams
David Goldflies
Dan Toler
Mike Lawler
David "Frankie" Toler
Warren Haynes
Johnny Neel
Allen Woody
Marc Quiñones
Oteil Burbridge
Jack Pearson
Derek Trucks
Jimmy Herring
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 4:44 pm to
Buffalo Springfield and The Byrds together is vast
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 4:50 pm to
Squirrel Bait.. This was up to a certain point in time.. it has splintered off further.. I don't see the Breeders/Lemonheads/all the various bands from Pajo..

Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 4:58 pm to
That's like trying to follow the Targaryen family tree.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

It's got to be either The Allman Brothers or The Grateful Dead, right?
those are mostly legacy sequel bands though…very little meaningful new music especially in the case of the dead.

my answer is the byrds as noted earlier. Another would be mayall/bluesbreakers
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:01 pm to
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quote:

hose are mostly legacy sequel bands though…very little meaningful new music especially in the case of the dead.


That may be true for the Dead bands, but the Allman offshoots have been producing new music for decades, such Gov’t Mule, Tedeschi Trucks Band, etc. Warren Haynes just released a new album yesterday.
Posted by tilco
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:10 pm to
It doesn’t count if no one has heard of any of these bands
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 4:01 pm to
The original Steve Miller band threw off some offshoots
Posted by nealnan8
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

The Byrds: Roger McGuinn, Gene Clark, David Crosby, Graham Parsons, Chris Hillman.

The Yardbirds: Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck.


This looks like the correct answer. Now, which band had the most successful offshoots? Probably The Yardbirds, but a close second would be Genesis:
Peter Gabriel - solo career
Phil Collins - solo career
Mike Rutherford - Mike And The Mechanics
Posted by PJinAtl
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 4:55 pm to
Skynyrd has a lot of associated acts, but not sure how many would count as true offshoots.

Rickey Medlocke had formed Blackfoot then disbanded them before joining LS, then reformed it after leaving and that was when they got noticed.

Donnie Van Zant has .38 Special but has no other connection to LS outside of being a family member. He and Johnny also went country as Van Zant.

Then the more true offshoots/spinoffs...
Rossington Collins Band
Allen Collins Band
Rossington/The Rossington Band
Artimus Pyle Band/All Points Bulletin
Randall Hall Band (started as lead singer of the Allen Collins Band and then filled in for Collins when Skynyrd reformed)
A lot of the surviving members played with a band called Alias in 1979.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:27 pm to
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That's like trying to follow the Targaryen family tree


I wasn't about to type all that out..
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:27 pm to
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It doesn’t count if no one has heard of any of these bands


That is indie rock royalty from the Commonwealth
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 7:30 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:43 am to
The Brit Prog Rock scene of the 70s/80s is bananas. Just Yes would be a chore to sort out, but then throw in King Crimson and the like(Asia, ELP, etc.)? Whew.

More of a web of interconnections of various members, but similar to the Byrds, sorting out the tapestry of members of Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rainbow and assorted acts requires graduate-level research.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 12:44 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:59 am to
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Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rainbow


...and MSG and Whitesnake

Posted by Hermit Crab
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:33 pm to
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Neutral milk hotel


not sure what band was the original Elephant 6 band, but there are a ton of them that share band members between all of them.
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:41 pm to
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Ace Midnight


Cool chart. It could be updated with Coverdale-Page and I think Cozy Powell played in several groups/projects not shown.
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