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John Lennon was the first rapper.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 11/24/20 at 4:34 pm
As the Beatles moved on, you can tell John started focusing more on the rhythm of his lyrics rather than the singing. A lot of people say that this was due to him feeling self conscious about his voice. I think he developed a kind of singing-rap hybrid that Drake has made popular today. Come Together and I Am the Walrus are good examples of this. Anyone else see any merit to this argument?
ETA: Someone mentioned Give Peace a Chance as a good example too and that he was the inventor of the diss track.
ETA: Someone mentioned Give Peace a Chance as a good example too and that he was the inventor of the diss track.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 4:35 pm
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 4:34 pm to _Hurricane_
The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill is an amazing diss track
Posted on 11/24/20 at 4:36 pm to _Hurricane_
Uh, no. The first pop hit with rap in it was Blondie's Rapture.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 11/24/20 at 4:36 pm to The Boat
How Do You Sleep is a fricking awful song IMO but it was also a mainstream diss track of a former band member. Ice Cube’s diss of NWA reminds me of it.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 4:51 pm to _Hurricane_
Posted on 11/24/20 at 5:12 pm to _Hurricane_
I would say that Dylan's Subterranean Homesick Blues, was the first hit song that used the quick lyrical/rhyme structure that became rap later on, but he wasn't the first either.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 5:20 pm to _Hurricane_
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How Do You Sleep is a fricking awful song IMO but it was also a mainstream diss track of a former band member.
the lyrics are awful (and embarrassingly cringeworthy) but the music is world class. Ringo on the skins and one of George’s best ever guitar pieces
Posted on 11/24/20 at 5:28 pm to _Hurricane_
Posted on 11/24/20 at 5:32 pm to auggie
Posted on 11/24/20 at 5:46 pm to _Hurricane_
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As the Beatles moved on, you can tell John started focusing more on the rhythm of his lyrics rather than the singing.
I saw a Beatles documentary where they talked about the different songwriting styles of Lennon vs. McCartney, and they keyed on this idea when comparing them.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 6:55 pm to cgrand
quote:Actually Ringo isn't on "How do You Sleep?". He declined to be a party to the dissing of Paulquote:the lyrics are awful (and embarrassingly cringeworthy) but the music is world class. Ringo on the skins and one of George’s best ever guitar pieces
How Do You Sleep is a fricking awful song IMO but it was also a mainstream diss track of a former band member.
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Starr visited the studio during the recording of the song and was reportedly upset, saying: "That's enough, John."
Posted on 11/24/20 at 7:08 pm to Kafka
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I'm not sure, that is such a good comparison. Those are genius lyrics, and the rhythm of the rhyme, is a hellacious example of what complicity a writer can achieve.
The difference is though: one was made for a choreographed dance on stage, and the other type is for everybody else to dance.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:34 pm to Treacherous Cretin
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blow your harmonica, son
Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:40 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Uh, no. The first pop hit with rap in it was Blondie's Rapture.
frick no, Roger Miller, King of the Road
Posted on 11/25/20 at 2:39 pm to Saint Alfonzo
FIFY
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The first american pop hit with rap in it was Blondie's Rapture.
U Roy
King Stitt
Those types got huge in UK, and obviously JA
Posted on 11/25/20 at 2:55 pm to _Hurricane_
this is why he was shot
street cred
street cred
Posted on 11/26/20 at 11:04 am to _Hurricane_
John Lennon was a pinko liberal commie and his music sucked arse!! I really don't get peoples affinity for the beatles. I went through their entire catalog on amazon and every album had one or two songs that were salvageable... the rest are shite! Glad that fricker is dead...
Posted on 11/26/20 at 12:51 pm to schismatic
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schismatic
You sound triggered, and you seem to be a very angry person. Happy Thanksgiving!
Posted on 11/26/20 at 2:19 pm to schismatic
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schismatic
Mind
The
Gap!
Posted on 11/27/20 at 6:16 pm to schismatic
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. I went through their entire catalog on amazon and every album had one or two songs that were salvageable.
No you didn't... you're a dumbass and a liar.
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