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re: Jason Isbell is the best singer songwriter ever... Love Dylan, Young, Simon.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:14 am to NATidefan
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:14 am to NATidefan
I love Isbell. That being said, there are tons of guys out there who write amazing lyrics. We have a pretty huge Folk and Roots fest here in our town that features a lot of the top billed singer songwriters in the nation from the folk/roots scene. They have almost zero mainstream following, but these people are gods in the folk/roots scene. Anyway, Isbell is great, but he's not, from a songwriter perspective, any better than Gregory Alan Isakov, Joe Pug, Joe Purdy, and a bunch of others who are working out there. And those are just some of the up and comers. You start dipping into the older generation of Emmylou, John Prine, Gillian Welch, etc.. and it opens up a whole other group.
It really comes down to personal appeal and what speaks to you at a given point in your life.
It really comes down to personal appeal and what speaks to you at a given point in your life.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 8:16 am
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:16 am to hogfly
quote:
I love Isbell. That being said, there are tons of guys out there who write amazing lyrics. We have a pretty huge Folk and Roots fest here in our town that features a lot of the top billed singer songwriters in the nation from the folk/roots scene. They have almost zero mainstream following, but these people are gods in the folk/roots scene. Anyway, Isbell is great, but he's not, from a songwriter perspective, any better than Gregory Alan Isakov, Joe Pug, Joe Purdy, and a bunch of others who are working out there.
It really comes down to personal appeal and what speaks to you at a given point in your life.
Using the words best and ever are silly in music discussions. Using them together is shameful.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:57 am to hogfly
No offense to Isbell, but Joe Pug is the best songwriter out there right now.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:41 am to Baloo
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the Central Park concert by Simon and Garfunkel
That is such an underrated album. A perfect mix of S&G songs along with Simon solo. And I prefer Paul and Art singing 'American Tune' together instead of Simon solo.
American Tune
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:22 am to Pettifogger
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No offense to Isbell, but Joe Pug is the best songwriter out there right now.
Check out:
John Moreland
Cory Branan
John Fullbright
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:39 am to NATidefan
Jason Isbell has a Bob Dylan lyric tattooed on his arm, not a Jason Isbell lyric. Just sayin....
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:35 pm to Jonas
That would be rather tacky and pretentious of him to tattoo his own lines on his forearm. Just saying.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 2:52 pm to NATidefan
Tom waits
Posted on 12/12/14 at 3:15 pm to NATidefan
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Still think Isbell is better than Young's, Dylan's, and Paul Simon's overall best. List the top thirty by Dylan, Simon, and Young, and I bet Isbell's top 30 is better.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 3:57 pm to NATidefan
If you are declaring someone the "best" at an art form then you are doing it wrong.
Also, I think Isbell is very talented.
Also, I think Isbell is very talented.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 4:00 pm to monsterballads
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Check out:
John Moreland
Cory Branan
John Fullbright
Familiar with all. None to me are at Isbell's level, and not close to Pugs, but we all may value different stuff.
I like Moreland a lot but I don't have a lot of material for him yet.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:48 pm to Pettifogger
Love all the names mentioned, (except for maybe two I'm not familiar with), but Leonard Cohen is the only one I really see as Dylan's equal.
But I'll definitely give Pug and Moreland a listen.
But I'll definitely give Pug and Moreland a listen.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 8:59 am to NATidefan
Was that video in the OP an SNL skit?
It looked and sounded like something out of Dewey Cox
It looked and sounded like something out of Dewey Cox
Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:14 am to Breesus
Posted on 12/13/14 at 11:52 am to monsterballads
Eh. Usually I'm a big southern rock fan, but that guy just doesn't do it for me. To each his own though.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 11:53 am to Pettifogger
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No offense to Isbell, but Joe Pug is the best songwriter out there right now.
Cool story time. Joe gave me a free signed Nation of Heat vinyl because I told him to eat at Pastimes and he said "It was fricking delicious. I love Louisiana."
He packed somewhere around 150 people into mud and water on a Tuesday night. No easy feat. That was impressive as hell. Almost as impressive as the performance itself.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 11:57 am to Breesus
He's not really Southern Rock. I mean, he was with DBT, but his solo stuff is more alt.country, which might explain why he doesn't do it for you.
This post was edited on 12/13/14 at 11:57 am
Posted on 12/13/14 at 11:59 am to hogfly
Yeah maybe. The OP song and that last one just seem very generic country to me
Posted on 12/13/14 at 12:26 pm to hogfly
yeah, isbell isn't "southern rock" since leaving DBT's
Posted on 12/13/14 at 1:35 pm to monsterballads
I don't know why, but one of my favorite Isbell lines is:
Just working benzodiazepene into an end rhyme takes such balls.
quote:
You’ve been stripping Portland since the day you turned 16
You got one thing to sell benzodiazepine
Just working benzodiazepene into an end rhyme takes such balls.
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