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re: It doesn’t seem like kids today are very interested in learning music instruments,
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:25 am to PowerTool
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:25 am to PowerTool
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In the 90's, anyone who could play at all could get on a stage in some grungy club and play in front of other teens or twentysomethings. I don't see many venues like that anymore. There's probably more than one reason, from urban gentrification driving up real estate costs, to parents being able to keep tab on their kids with smart phones. But there's probably a lot less incentive to start a rock band these days.
Primarily being there are no big rock bands. Most of music now is bedroom-produced projects and hip-hop trash. And, as you've said, outside of the major metros, the music scenes have withered and died. If you can record an album with pro-tools and a rudimentary grasp of a guitar/synth/drum machine you can record relatively cheaply, distribute easily and never play a live show. That leads to no scene, no inspiration for younger players, no machine to work your way up... you're clearly in it for the hobby if you pick up an instrument these days, and kids are more distracted than ever.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:27 pm to AUCom96
I can't think of when I could go see a good bar band like spank the monkey around here. Used to be several every week
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:43 pm to Robin Masters
Not surprised the OP she most responders would be so clueless. I mean, y'all just are completely wrong. Guitar sales are strong and growing, with other instruments also selling well. Lots of new gear or there a week. Lots of people picking up instruments and forming bands.
Guitar Sales Statistics
Guitar Sales Statistics
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:51 pm to SEClint
Society today and social media has bred a “instant gratification” mentality. If pressing a button on a program can make a computer play a sound that would take you 3 years to learn to do on an instrument, they’re going to do that. I can’t say I completely blame them, it’s just a little bit of part of this everyone’s a winner, one pill fix all collective mind that the newer generations have. If pressing play can make 80k people jump and go out of their minds, why form a shitty rock band that no one will listen to in your garage? That being said I put my kid up in my music room every few days to just make noises on the different instruments I have. Just making sound on the instruments is good for them.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:50 pm to Robin Masters
My grandson is going to take clarinet when he goes into Jr High next year. I told him to buy the dog ear plugs, the squeaking will drive it crazy.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 12:03 am to Robin Masters
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It doesn’t seem like kids today are very interested in learning music instruments,
Are you just making this scenario up in your head? There are and always will be kids learning to play musical instruments, have you ever been on youtube or tiktok? Heard of school marching bands, ensembles, jazz bands, show choirs?
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:25 am to Robin Masters
seems like a boomer take.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:21 am to monsterballads
I can tell you first-hand based on the quantity and quality of young fretted instrument players who walk through my workshop doors daily ...
Admirable music and impressive musicianship is absolutely, unequivocally on very, very solid ground.
Admirable music and impressive musicianship is absolutely, unequivocally on very, very solid ground.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 10:24 am to Robin Masters
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Being in bands, or think guitars are “cool”?
1. Anything requiring years of effort to even get good enough to perform in front of people is considered a waste of time
2. Rock is essentially dead in the mainstream. You have to seek it out yourself because you won’t just happen upon it.
3. Anything considered aggressive or edgy is systematically attacked until it buckles under the pressure.
All that being said - my kids play on my drum kit several times per week and they know who Periphery is so I say I’m winning
Posted on 5/10/23 at 10:53 am to TheFretShack
I have an 8th grader who currently dabbles in playing 5 different instruments, 2 of which he plays seriously. I think the interest is there but don't confuse a crappy live music culture with kids who aren't interested in playing. Kids have more access than ever to learn how to play.
I'm hoping the shift will come when pop culture craves something more authentic and real. Even if it's something like grunge which wasn't necessarily the best musicianship or songwriting, but something that that was real and didn't give a f$ck.
I'm hoping the shift will come when pop culture craves something more authentic and real. Even if it's something like grunge which wasn't necessarily the best musicianship or songwriting, but something that that was real and didn't give a f$ck.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 11:04 am to Robin Masters
Hey, great time to buy a used guitar on Craigs list... About 3 months after Christmas, when the kid realizes that he would rather play Guitar Hero than spend the time learning to play a real guitar.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 11:12 am to TheFretShack
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Admirable music and impressive musicianship is absolutely, unequivocally on very, very solid ground.
That is my impression as well. I have one high school kid in School of Rock (yes, yes.. I know all the downsides), and we see tons of kids who are amazing. We've also seen a lot of those kids from School of Rock go on to create their own bands over the years outside of the "School."
My other son loves music. He's been focused on bikes his whole life, though, so he never took up an instrument. He's starting to now, though, and the majority of his friends all play some instrument.
That being said: I also see a ton of kids (I teach at a high school) who not only aren't interested in music or instruments, but aren't really interested in much of anything. And it's pretty sad, but seems to be tied more to their upbringing and socioeconomic status (lack of encouragement due to parents not really being in a position themselves to cultivate their interests). My kids and their friends, on the other hand, are all pretty danged driven in and passionate about their pursuits, but they have the advantage of parents who have encouraged them.
I do think that kids who DO have an interest are 1000x more able to pursue that interest and get really good at it in today's world because of youtube tutorials and access to seeing other peers their own age do amazing things as role models. That goes for all hobbies/pursuits not just music, though. But damn.. it's crazy to see what some teens can do and how well they can perform at really young ages in all kinds of pursuits now, though.
TL;DR= Okay boomer.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 11:34 am
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:12 pm to hogfly
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School of Rock (yes, yes.. I know all the downsides)
nothing wrong with kids in school of rock.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:24 pm to Robin Masters
I have to disagree. My son just started a band with his high school friends and they’ve been playing gigs in Lafayette. Last week they opened for Marc Broussard. So naturally, I’m seeing lots of young people enthused with learning music and really delving into it. YouTube has made learning how to play so much more accessible. There’s a lot of young people out there who appreciate good music and are developing their own musical skills
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:37 pm to selfgen
Which band? I play a lot shows out in lafayette, and I’m consistently looking for supporting acts.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:54 am to AUCom96
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Primarily being there are no big rock bands
wait what? I don't know where yall get these takes from.
Foo Fighters
Arctic Monkeys
Queens of the stone age
Greta Van Fleet
Muse
Jack White
those may not be your favorite bands but to say that there are "no big rock bands" is just blatantly false
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:56 am to TheFretShack
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I can tell you first-hand based on the quantity and quality of young fretted instrument players who walk through my workshop doors daily ...
Admirable music and impressive musicianship is absolutely, unequivocally on very, very solid ground.
100%
these takes seem to come from the same people who say "there's just no good music anymore"
same people im convinced
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:38 am to selfgen
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I have to disagree. My son just started a band with his high school friends and they’ve been playing gigs in Lafayette. Last week they opened for Marc Broussard. So naturally, I’m seeing lots of young people enthused with learning music and really delving into it. YouTube has made learning how to play so much more accessible. There’s a lot of young people out there who appreciate good music and are developing their own musical skills
This. My 3rd grade son kept asking us for a guitar for his birthday. I said sure, but only if he agrees to lessons. He agreed and has been in lessons for months now and loves it.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:17 am to Robin Masters
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It doesn’t seem like kids today are very interested in learning music instruments,
Being in bands, or think guitars are “cool”?
Is this because music videos have become obsolete?
Depends on where they go to school, perhaps? My kids' high school has an insanely huge high participation in chorus, band, orchestra, and marching band. They had a combined concert and I think they said 17% of the school was on the stage.
My school didn't even have a music program, at all.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:26 pm to TheFretShack
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I can tell you first-hand based on the quantity and quality of young fretted instrument players who walk through my workshop doors daily ...
Admirable music and impressive musicianship is absolutely, unequivocally on very, very solid ground.
That is my impression as well. The masses of kids may not be learning an instrument these days, but the ones that are are attending Arts Magnets, School of Rock, etc. and are very good musicians. I see young local bands quite often and am really impressed with the musicianship in these bands.
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