re: Is rock dead?

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“Sleep Token is just Evanesence for bros”

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First of all, Sleep Token's fanbase is mostly women. Second of all, what's wrong with Evanescence?

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First of all, Sleep Token's fanbase is mostly women.

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I have a hard time believing this. Women are very attracted to physical appearance and Sleep Token doesn't show their faces.

Not saying it's untrue, but seems off brand for women as music consumers.

Got it. Good for them.

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Is rock dead?

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Yes. If you only engage with the music you already know, ignore modern means of discovering new music, continue to have a narrow view of what "rock" is, and keep denying evidence from the people showing you it's not dead because you've decided to hold this opinion come hell or high water, then, yeah, it's dead. To you.

I think if more people would be willing to give them a try, the modern bluegrass/jamgrass bands would give classic rock fans their fix and then some. Greensky Bluegrass and Billy Strings rock pretty hard when they choose to. Leftover Salmon also and they have drums.

They are great live shows to attend as well, lots of happy people

I like a bit of bluegrass, but I can’t listen to it for an extended period of time.

Live would probably be different and I need to give it a try.

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Is rock dead?

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No. Plenty of good rock music out there. Most of the people on here don't care to try and listen to anything new and just stick to listening to Skynard, Foo Fighters, and Pearl Jam. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but you're certainly missing out on a lot of good music if you do.

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There are not that many true rock producers and engineers working anymore.

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There are fewer and fewer actual recording studios every day... things are just recorded on laptops or computers in practice rooms, for the most part. There's no budgets, anymore... hell, there's not really any younger bands even getting record contracts with bigger labels. So "producers" outside of hip hop and pop (who both do the same thing at this point, build complete tracks for vocalists to put vocals/lyrics on top of... that's how Taylor Swift is so productive while touring the world non-stop, she has 3 or 4 collaborators making all of the music and she just send them vocal tracks) are a dying breed, for the most part.

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Bands are hard to manage and keep going. Try keeping 4 or 5 people working in the same direction for any extended period of time in any field, it's a monumental task. It's expensive for record companies as well.

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Really... "bands" are almost extinct... it's pretty impossible to keep a bunch of people together after age 30. The general label A&R rep guideline going back to the early 70s was "don't bother signing bands of people older than 25," because it was a bad investment... and that's why they usually focused in on signing the singer and whoever wrote the songs in particular over time instead of the entire band... by the mid-00s they would fire the rest of the band and bring in someone like Rick Beato to do what they would do, anyway. That's made bands one, two, maybe three people plus sidemen who get a salary to play live. And that why there's not another "Beatles" or even "R.E.M." or "U2" these days... because there's not 4 different personalties contributing to things, usually just one.

There's also "young male genius syndrome" where males are supernaturally driven in their teens and 20s to differentiate themselves from their reproductive competition (to get laid as much as possible) and that naturally starts to fade in their 30s (or whenever they settle down)... it's the same for musicians as it is for athletes, artists, writers, and criminals. Whichever area people have "talent" in and is getting them attention from ladies and "respect."

Plus... for 25 years, at least, it's been MUCH easier to get laid as a DJ or a rapper than a bass player in a rock band, so that's detoured a lot of kids...

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There are some really good new rock bands out. The problem is, they don't get exposure like they did in the 80s and early to mid 90's.

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It is actually probably EASIER.... because of the internet, and no "gatekeeprs" deciding who gets a shot... but the problem is that it is way TOO easy, so there's too much music trying to get everybody's attention. It's too easy to record music (regardless of actual proficiency) and anybody with an internet connection can upload it to streaming sites...

Music Matters: More music is being released today (in a single day) than was released in the calendar year of 1989

What you're bemoaning is the death of a system where someone - record execs, music critics, radio programmers - waded through the bullshite for you and limited what got through. There's way too much bullshite being made these days... that entire system has been washed away in the deluge, and people have reacted by increasingly not bothering. Myself, I'm with Steve Albini that it's probably healthier, now... but someone has to be incredibly determined and talented (or just come from a very wealthy family) to rise above the water line.

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Is rock dead?

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Bjorn, good news brother... ROCK & ROLL is like Jesus Christ - You can't kill it. It's here to stay. It's forever and one of the greatest things God has graced us with.