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hogcard1964
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
True, he's definitely the most distinguishable guitarist.


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kingbob
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
Keith Richards is a very tasteful rhythm player, but his technical skills pail in comparison to the truly elite virtuosos. Keith is an excellent songwriter. He knows how to take something simple and make it into an earwig that is highly memorable. That is a skill, for sure, but an elite shredder he is not. Imagine Keith trading solos with Steve Vai, Paul Gilbert, Eddie Van Halen, Joe Satriani, or Yngwie. He’s not in the same species as those guys.


kingbob
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
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That doesn't matter one bit if he never did anything that sounded good to the particular listener


If you don’t think Eddie Van Halen sounds good, then that says way more about you than it does Eddie. Eddie’s tone and style is iconic. His solos and rhythm sections are both catchy and technically challenging.

Eddie’s guitar was a leap forward in instrument design, creating the super strat design that has been the blueprint for literally most guitars made since. Nearly every guitarist of the 80’s and most metal guitarists since have played on some iteration of the super strat design coined by EVH.

His tone, nicknamed the Brown Sound, is THE most sought after tone among guitarists, rivaled only by Clapton’s blues breaker tone.
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UKWildcats
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
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there are plenty of very talented players who while I appreciate their talent, I may not enjoy their style.

Yngwie Malmsteen is the poster child of this for me. Hell toss Vai and Satriani in there while I'm at it.


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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
I like Page, and love LZ. Its just some of live stuff, he goes off the rail with improvising.


AlxTgr
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
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If you don’t think Eddie Van Halen sounds good, then that says way more about you than it does Eddie. Eddie’s tone and style is iconic. His solos and rhythm sections are both catchy and technically challenging.


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His tone, nicknamed the Brown Sound
I am not talking about tone. Nothing he has done appeals to me in the slightest. Take someone like Peter Buck. Never talked about in discussions of great guitarists, yet is able to come up with so many guitar parts that people love.

In other words, you and I are talking about totally different things.


awestruck
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
But...
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Peter Buck.
... is not overrated. Perhaps underrated if anything.


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EA6B
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
[quote]Imagine Keith trading solos with Steve Vai, Paul Gilbert, Eddie Van Halen, Joe Satriani, or Yngwie. He’s not in the same species as those guys.[/quot

I’ll go with the guitarist that can move your soul with a 6 note solo, over the one that plays 6000 notes in every solo just because they can, at some point it’s just noise.


Pettifogger
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
That exists throughout art/music.

The technically masterful artist vs. the one who does something that is indescribably appealing, emotion-inducing, etc.

I'm guessing there are hundreds or thousands of painters and sculptors walking the earth who have technical abilities exceeding a lot of history's great masters. And we'll never know their names because they produce extremely well-done art that is somehow unremarkable.


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Shanegolang
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
Jimmy Page? Over the Hills and Far Away intro on acoustic is example enough of his skill.
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awestruck
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
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Jimmy Page.
Session musicians usually make a name for themselves for being pretty good.

From his Wikipedia page (sic)

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Page was the favoured session guitarist of record producer Shel Talmy. As a result, he secured session work on songs for the Who and the Kinks.[36] Page is credited with playing acoustic twelve-string guitar on two tracks on the Kinks' debut album, "I'm a Lover Not a Fighter" and "I've Been Driving on Bald Mountain",[37] and possibly on the B-side "I Gotta Move".[38] He played rhythm guitar on the sessions for the Who's first single "I Can't Explain"[34] (although Pete Townshend was reluctant to allow Page's contribution on the final recording; Page also played lead guitar on the B-side, "Bald Headed Woman").[39] Page's studio gigs in 1964 and 1965 included Marianne Faithfull's "As Tears Go By", Jonathan King's "Everyone's Gone to the Moon", the Nashville Teens' "Tobacco Road", the Rolling Stones' "Heart of Stone", Van Morrison & Them's "Baby, Please Don't Go", "Mystic Eyes", and "Here Comes the Night", Dave Berry's "The Crying Game" and "My Baby Left Me", Brenda Lee's "Is It True", Shirley Bassey's "Goldfinger",[40] and Petula Clark's "Downtown".

In a 2010 interview, Page recalled contributing guitar to the incidental music of the Beatles' 1964 film A Hard Day's Night, which was being recorded at Abbey Road Studios.[41]

In 1965, Page was hired by Stones manager Andrew Loog Oldham to act as house producer and A&R man for the newly formed Immediate Records label, which allowed him to play on and/or produce tracks by John Mayall, Nico, Chris Farlowe, Twice as Much and Clapton. Also in 1965, Page produced one of Dana Gillespie's early singles, "Thank You Boy".[42] Page also formed a brief songwriting partnership with then romantic interest Jackie DeShannon. He composed and recorded songs for the John Williams (not to be confused with the film composer John Williams) album The Maureeny Wishful Album with Big Jim Sullivan. Page worked as session musician on Donovan Leitch's Sunshine Superman and the Johnny Hallyday albums Jeune homme and Je suis né dans la rue, the Al Stewart album Love Chronicles and played guitar on five tracks of Joe Cocker's debut album, With a Little Help from My Friends. Over the years since 1970, Page played lead guitar on 10 Roy Harper tracks, comprising 81 minutes of music.

When questioned about which songs he played on, especially ones where there exists some controversy as to what his exact role was, Page often points out that it is hard to remember exactly what he did given the enormous number of sessions he was playing at the time.[34][36] In a radio interview, he explained that "I was doing three sessions a day, fifteen sessions a week. Sometimes I would be playing with a group, sometimes I could be doing film music, it could be a folk session ... I was able to fit all these different roles."[17]


Shanegolang
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
Yeah I was supporting him as a great guitarist thus my example of his skill on the acoustic intro to "Over The Hills And Far Away".


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Lucky5150
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
Page made Keith a amateur when it came to alcohol and drugs in the 70's. Page is the GOAT


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olemc999
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
Ritchie Blackmore


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Tigerhalen
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
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EVH (all flash)


EVH is considered to be one of the best rhythm guitarists of all time and is also considered to be a brilliant songwriter. That’s not exactly “all flash.”



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geauxbrown
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
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Jeff Beck


For me, Beck has the most distinguishable style.


EA6B
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
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For me, Beck has the most distinguishable style.


His instrumental interpretations of jazz standards with his unique fingerpicking whammy bar technique are just brilliant.


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Tigerlaff
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
The Edge


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Eternally Undefeated
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
If everyone is honest, the assessment of whether someone is or is not a great guitarist is probably most defined by whether you do or do not like what music he/she plays, which really isn't the best barometer for how good he/she is in comparison with other guitarists.

Example, is Richie Blackmore considered a great guitarist because of how he played in Deep Purple or would he still be considered great if all you knew of him was that crap he plays in the band he's in with his wife?
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re: Guitarists That Seem Overrated
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Hendrix

Stopped reading right here.


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