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re: Big part of the problem we have in the country today is the death of rock.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 2:04 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Posted on 5/28/18 at 2:04 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Rock music killed rock music.
Rock n' roll spoke to generations of kids and young adults of every decade that wanted to listen to music to feel rebellious. To rebel against traditional American norm's and their parents. From Elvis all the way down to Linkin Park. The problem was at some point during the mid 2000's rock music became stale, formulaic, uninspired, and just not cool and rebellious anymore. How could it be? Did anyone feel like bumping Nickleback or Fall Out Boy to feel like a rebel 10 years ago? No because the whole genre became commercialized safe garbage.
In the meantime rap music became very accessible to suburban youth thanks to the breakout of Eminem in the early 2000s. Gradually since then rap music has taken rock's place as that music that the youth and young adults listen to. Hell take a look at modern rappers today, they get the same treatment as rockstars from the 70s & 80s.
Rock music didn't evolve. Period. Thats what killed it. For the past 15 years rock music has been stuck in the same boring uninspired cycle. In the meantime Rap has taken it spot by also evolving it's sound. Rock is dead, and the only way for it to come back is if a band comes along that totally flips the genre on it's head and does something new and bold.
Rock n' roll spoke to generations of kids and young adults of every decade that wanted to listen to music to feel rebellious. To rebel against traditional American norm's and their parents. From Elvis all the way down to Linkin Park. The problem was at some point during the mid 2000's rock music became stale, formulaic, uninspired, and just not cool and rebellious anymore. How could it be? Did anyone feel like bumping Nickleback or Fall Out Boy to feel like a rebel 10 years ago? No because the whole genre became commercialized safe garbage.
In the meantime rap music became very accessible to suburban youth thanks to the breakout of Eminem in the early 2000s. Gradually since then rap music has taken rock's place as that music that the youth and young adults listen to. Hell take a look at modern rappers today, they get the same treatment as rockstars from the 70s & 80s.
Rock music didn't evolve. Period. Thats what killed it. For the past 15 years rock music has been stuck in the same boring uninspired cycle. In the meantime Rap has taken it spot by also evolving it's sound. Rock is dead, and the only way for it to come back is if a band comes along that totally flips the genre on it's head and does something new and bold.
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 2:52 am to LSUTigersVCURams
The music industy's target is teen girls. That's where the purchasing power is.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 2:56 am
Posted on 5/28/18 at 2:56 am to meaux5
Saw GVF live recently. They’re bringing it back
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 2:57 am
Posted on 5/28/18 at 3:39 am to 1BamaRTR
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Plus as you’ve probably heard, correlation doesn’t equal causation
I would imagine the normalization of that lifestyle qualifies as a causation.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 5:01 am to pevetohead
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In the meantime rap music became very accessible to suburban youth thanks to the breakout of Eminem in the early 2000s.
That was a great post and this is the only part I disagree with. Rap was very accessible to suburban youth long before Eminem. Who do you think bought all those Wu-Tang, Snoop, and Eazy E records? Or Run DMC and Beastie Boys for that matter back in the 80's?
Eminem was the result of white kids buying rap records. Not the cause.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 5:05 am
Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:49 am to Dalosaqy
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Rock's not dead. It just no longer pleases the starmaker machinery.
Really just need some good ole teen angst. I think it's coming.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:28 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Rock isn't dead, but the rock business is definitely dying, and I'm not losing sleep about that TBH.
I think the reason has alot more to do with the cop-out illegal downloading excuse I keep hearing from old artists & labels...hell, just look at Napster's height, and album sales were actually soaring at that time.
IMO the reason for music's decline is simple: the target audience has more options at its disposal than previous generations. It's no accident that as music sales have declined in the last 20 years, overall electronics revenues (TVs, gaming, cell phones & monthly bills, monthly internet bills, etc) have gone through the roof. That's a shite-load of lawns to mow in order to have all of that, AND still buy the same amount of music as previous generations. While this was happening, the labels made zero course corrections, deciding to keep blaming the boogeyman downloaders instead....yes, some rogue people were illegally downloading, but it's disingenuous to count something as a "lost" sale if it was never gonna be purchased in the first place, so the reason for declining sales was something different.
Of course, the labels ended up parroting the downloading angle at fear-mongering levels to aging artists, so nowadays they're holding those same old artists over a barrel with shitty Spotify deals...
frick major labels.
I think the reason has alot more to do with the cop-out illegal downloading excuse I keep hearing from old artists & labels...hell, just look at Napster's height, and album sales were actually soaring at that time.
IMO the reason for music's decline is simple: the target audience has more options at its disposal than previous generations. It's no accident that as music sales have declined in the last 20 years, overall electronics revenues (TVs, gaming, cell phones & monthly bills, monthly internet bills, etc) have gone through the roof. That's a shite-load of lawns to mow in order to have all of that, AND still buy the same amount of music as previous generations. While this was happening, the labels made zero course corrections, deciding to keep blaming the boogeyman downloaders instead....yes, some rogue people were illegally downloading, but it's disingenuous to count something as a "lost" sale if it was never gonna be purchased in the first place, so the reason for declining sales was something different.
Of course, the labels ended up parroting the downloading angle at fear-mongering levels to aging artists, so nowadays they're holding those same old artists over a barrel with shitty Spotify deals...
frick major labels.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 8:34 am
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:27 am to meaux5
How is this being downvoted?
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:30 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Guitar music in general is poor nowadays. There are a few decent bands but when you compare it to previous years it is embarrassing really. And with the internet there is no excuse not to make it these days. If you are good enough you would be breaking through and getting heard.
The last great rock band was Oasis. There were a few very good ones at the turn of the century that gave me hope but they fizzled out after 1 or 2 albums.
Very few rock stars are very interesting these days. Nobody says anything controversial. They are all too nice.
The last great rock band was Oasis. There were a few very good ones at the turn of the century that gave me hope but they fizzled out after 1 or 2 albums.
Very few rock stars are very interesting these days. Nobody says anything controversial. They are all too nice.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 10:04 am to Loungefly85
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I would imagine the normalization of that lifestyle qualifies as a causation.
Like what? Violent crimes such as murder and rape have gone down in the last few decades yet rap is more mainstream now then in the 80s to 90s.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 3:13 pm to 1BamaRTR
To quote one of my favorite Bloom County cartoons. The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket since David Lee Roth left Van Halen.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 4:09 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
XM 29 - Jam On provides me hours upon hours of jamming electric guitar solos and shite. Not everybody’s cup of tea but there’s certainly some guys out there that like to jam without synthesizers and all that Jazz.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:25 am to hrryhll
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The last great rock band was Oasis.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:11 am to monsterballads
America never appreciated Oasis. Your loss.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:18 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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A bunch of computers.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:20 am to hrryhll
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The last great rock band was Oasis. There were a few very good ones at the turn of the century that gave me hope but they fizzled out after 1 or 2 albums
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Very few rock stars are very interesting these days. Nobody says anything controversial. They are all too nice.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 9:40 am
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:21 pm to 50_Tiger
Posted on 5/29/18 at 3:44 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
The rise of country and redneck noise destroyed this country.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:21 pm to hrryhll
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The last great rock band was Oasis.
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