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Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:30 pm to TheCurmudgeon
How could ya be so wrong
What it is that makes a song
Not the instrument playin
It's the music makin'!!
What it is that makes a song
Not the instrument playin
It's the music makin'!!
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:50 pm to TheCurmudgeon
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I know chord progressions, chords, scales, can put together arrangements, can pick up on the structure of a song while listening to it, and the like. But I hesitate saying I'm a "musician", instead just refer to myself as "guitar player".
My personal opinion here is you're a musician.
I think of myself as a guitar player. I know the basics of music and theory but I go off of feel 95% of the time. What I play generally won't be "right" but I go with what fits the best.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:59 am to TheCurmudgeon
I offer that we've all heard lots of people who call themselves musicians who are only mere paid professionals. So this is sort of a meh question, best left to while having a drink, without delineating 'good musician'.
As in I know lots of people who call themselves guitar players that are not what I'd call good musicians, yet still manage to get payed for it, so I guess they're still musicians.
As in I know lots of people who call themselves guitar players that are not what I'd call good musicians, yet still manage to get payed for it, so I guess they're still musicians.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 2:20 pm to TheCurmudgeon
I've always considered myself a musician, who mainly plays guitar, but am serviceable on bass, drums, and backing vocals. At 50, I've been performing live for 35+ years. Whether bluegrass on a porch, outlaw country in a bar, or comping with a big band...I just love to play. Practice tomorrow evening, then our first gig since shut-down next weekend.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 2:28 pm to bgoodwin
Just received a new 4x12 oversized cab for the road when things get going again. Going to color the cloth to match the carpet in the shining.
May do some speaker experimentation with it
May do some speaker experimentation with it
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 2/19/21 at 2:53 pm to SEClint
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Going to color the cloth to match the carpet in the shining.
That's a cool idea. Do you think many people will make the connection without being told?
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:20 am to auggie
quote:eh..I think its fairly universal to the people who would be at shows
Do you think many people will make the connection without being told?
Eta
Combo I'll be using now, for the foreseeable future anyways
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 1:43 am
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:11 am to SEClint
Rhythm guitarist or a musician
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:48 pm to RancherReb
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Rhythm guitarist or a musician
Somebody steal your girl, while you were doing a jimmy Page impersonation?
Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:49 pm to TheCurmudgeon
Like anything, there are different levels of musicanship.
For me, the top guys are the ones who can walk into a high pressure session, look at the chart and play the song perfectly the first time.
Performing under that type of pressure has always been admirable to me.
For me, the top guys are the ones who can walk into a high pressure session, look at the chart and play the song perfectly the first time.
Performing under that type of pressure has always been admirable to me.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:51 pm to cgallent
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Simple. One is a creator and the other is a mimic.
This is a great debate topic. For me, creating meant that I was doing something that was in my wheelhouse. It meant that I used chords and progressions that I was familiar with and that I liked.
Things became more difficult when I sat down and tried to "mimic" what someone like Benard Purdie was doing on AJA.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:01 pm to TheCurmudgeon
A musician is anyone who can reliably express some human emotion through musical sound.
There are myriad levels from beginner to professional. One doesn't need to read music or understand music theory to be a musician as long as they can communicate through their music, whether written or performed.
There are myriad levels from beginner to professional. One doesn't need to read music or understand music theory to be a musician as long as they can communicate through their music, whether written or performed.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:23 pm to johnqpublic
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A musician is anyone who can reliably express some human emotion through musical sound.
Id say he was a good example of that. There was a technical talent gap between him and Randy Rhoads, but he found a way through a complex simplicity
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:07 pm to SEClint
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say he was a good example of that. There was a technical talent gap between him and Randy Rhoads,
I think so too. When you have some calling you a generations John Lennon (not me. That’s too far IMO) and other people shite on you. You struck a nerve. You are or were a musician.
Side tangent of Tyler Childers. I WISH I could play that well. His guitar playing is “basic” compared to his vocal. Only a handful of people can sing like that. EVER. Many can play that well. He combines the two making him bluegrass Jim Croce minus the plane crash. Even that’s a poor example as Croce didn’t do that tortured vocal. Not that I ever heard.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 6:40 pm to TheCurmudgeon
I had a band when I was in college. It was 3 musicians and a drummer.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 6:57 pm to TheCurmudgeon
I like what Lennon said. He said that he was an artist and make a musical sound come out of almost any instrument. He admitted that he was not a great technical guitarist, but that he had the ability to " make a song move." For a guy that could not read or write music, his artistic ability made him a great songwriter and a pretty good guitarist.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:43 pm to TheCurmudgeon
I think I see the line you are trying to draw.
I think the “line” gets drawn between the guy who can play what’s been played, and the guy who can play what he wants because he thinks it sounds better than what has been done before, I.e. the guy who “feels it” rather than “learns it” or “knows it” when you are playing with a group in particular. Nothing about that prevents you from doing it how it’s been done before or playing by yourself.
Could be as little as liking a certain suspended chord where a major went or something along those lines.
The other thing that I’ve always sort of thought goes along with the difference between the two is the ability to adapt to what’s happening. Ex: a rhythm guitar player struggles when the singer repeats the chorus at the end of the song or the guy taking a ride goes four bars too long because it doesn’t belong there. A musician playing rhythm guitar knows to keep playing and doesn’t make the change back to the verse because the song is alive, and you just keep it going like it should go, regardless of whether it’s been done before.
I think the “line” gets drawn between the guy who can play what’s been played, and the guy who can play what he wants because he thinks it sounds better than what has been done before, I.e. the guy who “feels it” rather than “learns it” or “knows it” when you are playing with a group in particular. Nothing about that prevents you from doing it how it’s been done before or playing by yourself.
Could be as little as liking a certain suspended chord where a major went or something along those lines.
The other thing that I’ve always sort of thought goes along with the difference between the two is the ability to adapt to what’s happening. Ex: a rhythm guitar player struggles when the singer repeats the chorus at the end of the song or the guy taking a ride goes four bars too long because it doesn’t belong there. A musician playing rhythm guitar knows to keep playing and doesn’t make the change back to the verse because the song is alive, and you just keep it going like it should go, regardless of whether it’s been done before.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 11:21 pm to Tigerfan016
That is why there are only a few "greats".
It takes a special gift that cannot be taught or learned.
It takes a special gift that cannot be taught or learned.
Posted on 2/23/21 at 11:55 am to TheCurmudgeon
My guitar teacher told me as soon as you pick up an instrument with the serious intent to play it, you're a musician. You may not be a good musician yet, but you're a musician.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 11:56 am
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