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re: Would Al Bundy be considered a Racist and Sexist and homophobe today?

Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:28 pm to
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They never touched race much but there was the episode where Peggy was going out every night dancing with a gay man and the gay mans husband ended up cooking for Al. He even still served Al using bucks dog dish


Probably the second best episode. Best was the Godfather episode.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:31 pm to
Yes.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:33 pm to
Al Bundy, Shoe Dick is my favorite


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In this episode, Al leads a different life as a detective who's being framed for the murder of a rich woman's father. By solving the case, he earns $50,000. He wakes up and realizes that it was a dream. He also realizes that his wife and Marcy's pregnancies were also just dreams.


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Posted by gumbo2176
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:39 pm to
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They are tough. They can handle it.




And they really didn't get along all that well on the set.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by boston vol
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:12 pm to
One, two, three, four, you’re going to fall through the floor.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:26 pm to
Lol, Married with Children would last 2 episodes before the cancels got to it.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:34 pm to
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Lol, Married with Children would last 2 episodes before the cancels got to it.




They tried to cancel it when it first came out and the attention actually boosted viewership

How an activist named Terry Rakolta tried—and failed—to convince Middle America to stop watching “Married … With Children.” She might have saved Fox.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:49 pm to
Did someone say Al Bundy

Posted by TrapperJohn
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:52 pm to


The voice of Homer Simpson.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:48 pm to
Al Bundy is the man!
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:04 pm to
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Incredible how the world has changed since this show was on the air.


If you are remembering Al Bundy as the relatable, "stand-in for the audience" protagonist of that show, then you are misremembering that show. He was meant to be a ridiculous id who would do, say, and think things you never would. A caricature. A funny, pretty well written (at times) caricature.
Posted by Navtiger1
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:18 pm to
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If you are remembering Al Bundy as the relatable, "stand-in for the audience" protagonist of that show, then you are misremembering that show. He was meant to be a ridiculous id who would do, say, and think things you never would. A caricature


I don't think Al was ever meant to be a "stand-in for the audience", but i think you're selling his character a bit short also. He was a caricature, but of the guy everybody knows who peaked in high school. No one on that show was meant as an audience stand in. They were all irredeemable in their own way.

His relatability is 100% tied to him saying and at times doing things people wish they could.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:50 am to
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Racist? Nah

Sexist?

Oh yea


I don't know, he could oddly get a pass.

He wasn't racist and hated women because of Peggy ruining his life.

Like an extreme version of Ray Romano...who complains about his wife all the time. And his wife who bitches about him all the time.

Since Peggy could certainly dish it out tenfold to Al, he probably gets a pass...

Because lets face it, Al was a punching bag more often than not by women on that show. Only Marcy couldn't give as good as she took.

Posted by bcoop199
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 3:16 am to
Ed O'Neil and Amanda bearse didn't like each other in real life.


“I remember one instance where she was getting married to the more female... a lovely girl by the way, and the invitations went out and I didn't get one, and neither did David Faustino.

“[She said] ’This was a very tough call, but I just feel that you would find it amusing that me and Becky would come in tuxedos in a church and walk down the aisle, and you and David would be snickering and finding it funny.’ I said, ‘Amanda, what is funny about two women in tuxedos, walking down to church?’ I started laughing and she said, ‘See!’ And I said, ‘Well, you know why? Because it is fricking funny and I'm not going to be the only one that doesn't think so.’ But it was funny. She had a little white tux and, to me, it was funny. But in other words, she may not have been wrong in excluding me.

“Another time we got in a big fight over something stupid in the makeup room. And she said something about you're a bully or something, and I said, ‘Well, you're miserable.’ It was just bad... In front of everybody, by the way. And then I said, ‘You're not very bright, is your problem.’ And she was bright, but in a way she wasn't because I said look... She said, ‘I’m not bright?’ And I could just see her gearing up, like ‘I’m smarter than you.’

“And I said ‘No, because I'll tell you why. I have a button I could push. That button says ‘Get rid of Amanda Bearse.’ You don't have a button that says get rid of it Ed O'Neill. Your button doesn't work. Mine works.’ Now, this was a mean thing to say: I never was going to push that button, but it was true. I could go to them and say ‘I can't work with her. I go or she does.’ Who goes? So that was kind of bad.”


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Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:47 am to
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Terry Rakolta


Also known as the sister of Mitt Romney's ex-sister-in-law.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 7:49 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 8:15 am to
M...WC is one of the most underrated shows ever. It's insanely funny, and even holds up really well today. Sure, most of the jokes and dialogue wouldn't fly if they were made today, but that's because the world is pussified now. But man, I catch it in reruns on WGN every now and then and it cracks me up constantly.

I also think most people nowadays don't realize that this show made Fox as a legit network, and that it ran for 11 seasons. That's a crazy good run for a sitcom.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 8:18 am to
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I just feel like it was too "poor black stereotype" for 2021. Liberal white people would get offended by it.


How was The Jefferson's too "poor black stereotype?" George Jefferson owned seven dry cleaning stores and was a multi-millionaire. If you had said Good Times, you might have a point. Not The Jefferson's.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted by RoyalAir
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 10:00 am to
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pretty much called Marcy a lesbian every episode.


To be fair, Amanda Bearse did consume more carpet than the scrap floors of Dalton.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:19 pm to
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No Ma'am.


The best reference, but needs pics.









Fun fact: Ed O'Neill is a 4th dan black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Youtube link

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